From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Mon Aug 30 2004 - 07:11:39 BST
Dear Ilya,
You were 13 Aug 2004 13:06:45 +0400 not sure what I meant with:
'Answering "experience" to "What do we have?" implies giving the broadest
possible answer according to the MoQ ontology.'
According to the MoQ experience is all there is and everthing is experience.
Answering "experience" to "What do we have?" does not restrict psychology or
distinguish it from any other field of human endeavour in any way.
You continued:
'Why [does the question "What can we do about it?" presuppose a meta-ethics,
i.e. an answer to the question "How can we know what we should do about
it?"]? The main concern of the ethics is moral, am I right? But I didn't ask
what we SHOULD do about it. I asked what we CAN do about it!'
The question "What CAN we do about it?" presupposes that we SHOULD do
something about it.
If the "psyche" in your "psychology" is everything "human" and if your
"psychology" wants to know how humans can be helped to satisfy their needs,
it looks a lot like my "economics": "I define economics as (our study of)
the way in which we organize that people get what they need (some more than
that, others not at all). Or, less
morally biased: (our study of) the way in which we organize that people get
what they want." (see
www.antenna.nl/wim.nusselder/schrijfsels/economics.htm)...
You continue:
'[The] individual himself should choose his goals. And who is to judge what
goals are the highest?'
Looks like an argument for value-free science... I don't believe that's
possible. Even by studying how to help people satifsy specific needs and by
saying that a specific 'want' is a 'need' you express that those 'needs' are
'higher' (more worthy of your attention) than other 'wants'.
You wrote 17 Aug 2004 15:18:53 +0400:
'Being open to DQ means experiencing that your static patterns (or, more
corretly, "static patterns you are composed of") do not adequately reflect
DQ. Consequences of being open to DQ depend on how strongly you cling to
your static patterns.'
DQ is (experienced as) patterns of value that change into new patterns of
value. Patterns of value cannot 'reflect' DQ. Openness to DQ means (for me):
openness to change to the better (to be distinguished from change back to
already existing patterns of value: i.e. degeneration).
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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