From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Tue Sep 14 2004 - 17:57:02 BST
Scott: Actually, I do not believe these problems can be solved, just as one
cannot
> describe "emptiness", for example. The best we can do is restate them in
> the logic of contradictory identity so their inherent insolvability is
more
> obvious. So the "solution" is to treat this contradictory identity as
> fundamental. Anything else is idolatry: the attempt to understand by
> ignoring one side or the other of the contradiction, and treating the
other
> as fundamental by itself. The MOQ almost got there, with its Quality/DQ/SQ
> triunity, but then lost it when it failed to realize that
> Quality/Subject/Object is a different focus on the same triunity.
DM: I spoke of purpose, I totally agree that solution in not likely, the
point is to
grasp the significance of these questions. I precisely think MOQ does grasp
that Q/S/O is an alternative triunity. Pirsig clearly speaks about the way
SOM
cuts the world up analytically and that MOQ does exactly the same sort of
cutting only at different locations, hence the suggestion that you could say
levels
1+2 relate to objects and levels 3+4 to subjects.
Scott> There is no problem detecting a difference between perception and
> imagination. The problem is why they both exist, and how they work and
> interact.
DM: I was thinking more that some patterns are retained within and
are related to memory and are essential to the re-cognition of patterns
that are projected outwards into 3d space & time. It is this non-projected
imagination/memory that is distinguished from projected-patterns outside
of the body that creates inner/outer distinction.
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