Re: MD Pirsig Recommended Website

From: David Harding (davidharding@optusnet.com.au)
Date: Sat Sep 25 2004 - 02:38:47 BST

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    Ian Glendinning wrote:
    Aha, got it - maybe - The Name of the Rose in
    reverse. Fictional character - play on St John
    Climacus (Stairway to Heaven) - goes back in time to
    rid the world of mind-matter duality ? The plot has
     possibilities. Beaten to it, back to the drawing
    board. Ian Glendinning

    --- David Harding <davidharding@optusnet.com.au>
    wrote:

    Hi Ian.
    You might well be right about that because as
    described here

    [http://mtsu32.mtsu.edu:11072/EvilGenius/notebook/August/8-3-2004.html];

    I don't know too many women who stand up to
    urinate..

    "As I stood there pissing.."

    and also described in the next paragraph, shave or
    trim moustaches..

    "..shaving, combing my hair, checking the progress
    of a not-very-impressive beard, trimming a
    mustache,.."

    From: "Richard Loggins" <brloggins@yahoo.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:57 AM
    Subject: Re: MD Pirsig Recommended Website

    David,
    The references to pissing and mustaches etc. are from
    the notes of a friend, obviously a man, and not the
    female psychologist.
    Rich

    David comments:

    Richard, from where are you referring to? As always.. quotes and page
    references would be good...

    I think the confusion however, may be in the following section of the
    text at
    [http://mtsu32.mtsu.edu:11072/EvilGenius/notebook/August/8-3-2004.html]..

    "The following is a reconstruction based on my friend's notes from two
    days ago. It offers a record of what happened, along with my running
    commentary/meditation. LSD is supposed to make the user non/pre-verbal;
    it had the opposite effect on me."*
    **
    *And then goes on to say..*
    **
    *"At 12 pm I ingested 400 micrograms of LSD in a form known as Clear
    Light-Windowpane acid (because it comes on a small transparent square)."

    That the following is a 'reconstruction' on a friends notes, does not
    specifically mean that the friend wrote the notes of their own
    experiences. I think this is confirmed in the third quoted sentence
    where the author says 'it had the opposite effect on me' suggesting that
    the notes were written about the author rather than the friend.

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