Re: MD self-knowledge

From: Charles Vanderford (proskuneo@fastermail.com)
Date: Tue Sep 28 2004 - 06:30:39 BST

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    Marsha wrote..
     
    Re: My question: How does MOQ relate to
    Re: self-knowledge? Quality? SQvsDQ? Intellectual Level? Living a life of
    Re: value?

    Hi again Marsha.. I like that question.  It's a pretty good one and I hope some people talk about it.  I notice that you ask simpler and more direct questions and because of this, I've started reading all your posts.  You're asking a lot of the same things I want to know, too, but don't think I'll find an answer to here. 

    I dunno if anyone feels the same, but I have a much greater affinity for ZMM than Lila.  To me, the difference between those books are the same as the differences between what you talk about and what most others here talk about.  It's almost as though you really want to ask a genuine question that has to do with your life, your personal understanding of Pirsig's ZMM Quality, "excellence," "worth," and "goodness" - but it gets so chopped up this forum that by the last post you don't recognize your question anymore in it, anywhere.  I'm certainly not an anti-intellectual, but I feel that the range of this forum does not extend much past that realm at all. 

    I wish there were some way all our lives were recorded somehow and there was some way we could all just shut up and see each other without pretense, without words.  This Quality of Pirsig's, which I know is as real as the air I breathe, is present in our relationships to the things around us.  Quality is an intangible, yet ever-present, all-pervading 'force' that is always subtly showing us the way by our peace of mind.  

    I have a question too.. in ZMM, Pirsig's Quality is "excellence," "worth," and "goodness," to use his exact words.  But in Lila, Pirsig's greatest good is freedom, pure dynamic Quality.  Freedom is good, yes, but does anyone feel that DQ and ZMM Quality don't exactly match up?


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