From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Thu Oct 14 2004 - 06:02:50 BST
Erin,
What I saw was a number of exchanges between folks trying to decide
on the best religion. If you already understand what I'm saying,
then you might want to consider the possibility that I wasn't talking
to you. This requires ego-dampening...
If you don't agree with what I'm saying, then present an argument.
Best,
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
On 13 Oct 2004 at 21:00, macavity11 wrote:
Well I'm not clear at what confusion you think you cleared up?
1st paragraph---yeah familiar withthe gist of what you are saying,
where did you see an argument for a literal interpetation of myths?
2nd- not going to bother responding because it just seems too silly
to bother
Erin
Mark Steven Heyman <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com> wrote:
Hi all,
Though I'm usually shy about expressing my opinion on this list (ask
anyone), I think I'll jump in here:
Whomever said "All religions are true" got it half right. All
religions are false AND true. They are historically and often
scientifically false whenever they use myth (which is just about all
the fn time) to point to some very real truths. Myth is used because
metaphor is more powerful than fact and always has been.
The confusion you're all struggling with here arises because,
somewhere in time, whomever introduced you to religion (nay, poured
religion into your brains) forgot to mention this subtle distinction,
if even they were aware of it. The result is you have a bunch of
fully grown adults going around thinking, for example, that some guy
actually walked on water, multiplied loaves and fishes, was
crucified, died, and was buried... then rose from the dead. This
makes for a lot of heavy back unloading of bs in the later years.
I've often thought this confusion would be avoided if every child was
taken from his parents at an impressionable age and required by law
to read Shakespeare.
Best,
msh
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On 13 Oct 2004 at 16:27, macavity11 wrote:
I'm sorry I just don't think you can say anti religion this and anti
religion that and then talk about the praises of a religion you like-
just seems too mixed of a message to me and even seems very
unbuddhistlike for that matter!(is that a word?)
-
"God is both one an! d many. Both in one instant. As anybody who
knows anything about the Unknowable well knows "God" and "gods" are
interchangeable. The exclusivistic patriarchal "Jehovah/Allah"
freaks are not incorrect when they insist that there is one Supreme
Being and that "he" is immutable and absolute. However, neither are
the wide-eyed inclusive pagans and primitives wrong when they
recognize gods of fire alongside gods of rivers; honor a moon
goddess, a crocodile spirit, and deities who reside in, among
countless other places, tree trunks:, rain clouds, peyote buttons,
and neon lighting (especially the flashing whites and greens)"
Tom Robbins, Villa Incognito
Erin
Chuck Roghair wrote:
On Oct 13, 2004, at 8:34 AM, macavity11 wrote:
> But then you say maybe Buddhism can help show the way, but that is
an
> old religion.
mu.
However, Buddhism certainly isn't an oppressive m! onolithic
institutionalized monotheism bent on world domination.
Best,
C.
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