Re: MD On Faith

From: macavity11 (macavity11@yahoo.com)
Date: Thu Oct 14 2004 - 05:00:44 BST

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    Well I'm not clear at what confusion you think you cleared up?
    1st paragraph ---yeah familiar with the gist of what you are saying, where did you see an argument for a literal interpetation of myths?
    2nd- not going to bother responding because it just seems too silly to bother
     
    Erin

    Mark Steven Heyman <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com> wrote:
    Hi all,

    Though I'm usually shy about expressing my opinion on this list (ask
    anyone), I think I'll jump in here:

    Whomever said "All religions are true" got it half right. All
    religions are false AND true. They are historically and often
    scientifically false whenever they use myth (which is just about all
    the fn time) to point to some very real truths. Myth is used because
    metaphor is more powerful than fact and always has been.

    The confusion you're all struggling with here arises because,
    somewhere in time, whomever introduced you to religion (nay, poured
    religion into your brains) forgot to mention this subtle distinction,
    if even they were aware of it. The result is you have a bunch of
    fully grown adults going around thinking, for example, that some guy
    actually walked on water, multiplied loaves and fishes, was
    crucified, died, and was buried... then rose from the dead. This
    makes for a lot of heavy back unloading of bs in the later years.

    I've often thought this confusion would be avoided if every child was
    taken from his parents at an impressionable age and required by law
    to read Shakespeare.

    Best,
    msh

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    On 13 Oct 2004 at 16:27, macavity11 wrote:
    I'm sorry I just don't think you can say anti religion this and anti 
    religion that and then talk about the praises of a religion you like- 
    just seems too mixed of a message to me and even seems very 
    unbuddhistlike for that matter!(is that a word?)
    -
    "God is both one and many. Both in one instant. As anybody who 
    knows anything about the Unknowable well knows "God" and "gods" are 
    interchangeable. The exclusivistic patriarchal "Jehovah/Allah" 
    freaks are not incorrect when they insist that there is one Supreme 
    Being and that "he" is immutable and absolute. However, neither are 
    the wide-eyed inclusive pagans and primitives wrong when they 
    recognize gods of fire alongside gods of rivers; honor a moon 
    goddess, a crocodile spirit, and deities who reside in, among 
    countless other places, tree trunks:, rain clouds, peyote buttons, 
    and neon lighting (especially the flashing whites and greens)"
    Tom Robbins, Villa Incognito
    Erin
    Chuck Roghair wrote:
    On Oct 13, 2004, at 8:34 AM, macavity11 wrote:
    > But then you say maybe Buddhism can help show the way, but that is 
    an 
    > old religion.
    mu.
    However, Buddhism certainly isn't an oppressive monolithic 
    institutionalized monotheism bent on world domination.
    Best,
    C.
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