Re: MD Gardner on Pragmatism

From: Glenn Bradford (gmbbradford@netscape.net)
Date: Mon Jan 20 2003 - 06:22:05 GMT

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    David, Rick,

    DMB asks:
    "James lived in a time when philosophy was dominated by metaphysical beliefs?
    I'm very curious about this. Please explain."

    I'll quote the relevant paragraph from Gardner's essay, 'Why I am Not a
    Pragmatist':
      James lived at a time when Western philosophy was dominated by
      German metaphysics, by philosophers who insisted with boundless egoism
      that all sorts of timeless metaphysical truths could be established by
      rational arguments. During the same period, science was suggesting that
      all our ideas about the world are provisional, and can be established
      only with varying degrees of probability as they pass or fail empirical
      tests. It was James' belief that if the meaning of truth could be put
      more in harmony with scientific method - instead of saying a hypothesis
      works because it is true in some absolute sense, we turn the words around
      and say it is probably true because it works - this new way of talking
      about truth would inject enormous clarity into philosophical speculation
      and eliminate all sorts of metaphysical muddles.

    James was trying to do something with 'truth' that were along similar lines
    as what the logical positivists were doing with 'verification', to counter
    the leaps of German metaphysical claims. This same sentiment is echoed in
    the passage from James' 'Pragmatism' that Rick gave us:

    WILLIAM JAMES (from 'Pragmatism', 1907, chap.2)
       Metaphysics has usually followed a very primitive kind of quest. You
    know how men have always hankered after unlawful magic, and you know what a
    great part in magic words have always played. If you have his name, or the
    formula of incantation that binds him, you can control the spirit, genie,
    afrite, or whatever the power may be. Solomon knew the names of all the
    spirits, and having their names, he held them subject to his will. So the
    universe has always appeared to the natural mind as a kind of enigma, of
    which the key must be sought in the shape of some illuminating or
    power-bringing word or name. That word names the universe's principle, and
    to possess it is after a fashion to possess the universe itself. 'God,'
    'Matter,' 'Reason,' 'the Absolute,' 'Energy,' are so many solving names.
    You can rest when you have them. You are at the end of your metaphysical
    quest.
       But if you follow the pragmatic method, you cannot look on any such word
    as closing your quest. You must bring out of each word its practical
    cash-value, set it at work within the stream of your experience. It appears
    less as a solution, then, than as a program for more work, and more
    particularly as an indication of the ways in which existing realities may be
    changed.

    RICK
       "On a side note, I've always felt that this passage casts some doubt onto
    Pirsig's claim that the Metaphysics of Quality is an extension of
    pragmatism. I can't help but to think that James would view Pirsig's
    "Quality" and "Dynamic Quality" as merely two more of the "solving names"
    which he seems regard with disdain in this passage. James contrasts
    Pragmatism to the solving names of metaphysics and offers it as an
    alternative to such linguistic solutions. The Metaphysics of Quality seems
    in many ways to be just sort of philosophy that James was trying to
    'debunk'."

    I agree, Rick.
    Glenn

    DMB:
    "Also, at the risk of offending you..."

    By the way, this did offend me.

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