Re: MD On Faith

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Tue Nov 02 2004 - 10:39:46 GMT

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    Hi

    No problem, I always welcome extra voices.

    There is no doubt we live with incomplete knowledge,
    yet we have to live forwards, so we should take care that we are
    ready to revise our necessary but uncertain assumptions.

    DM
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Joseph Maurer" <jhmau@sbcglobal.net>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:22 PM
    Subject: Re: MD On Faith

    > On 30 October DM writes to Mel:
    >
    > [DM] Not keen on the word faith really. But we have to accept all sorts of
    > experiences reported to us by others. We draw a line somewhere between
    > trust
    > and the too fantastic, based on examples of where the fantastic prove true
    > (yes the world is round) and where the truth proves to be crazy (so there
    > is
    > no ether).
    >
    >
    > Hi David, Mel, and all,
    >
    > I do not know how to apologize for inserting my two cents on 'faith' into
    > your discussion with Mel, but I find what you have said interesting. Faith
    > is expressed in dogma. Mystical experience can only be expressed in
    > faith-dogma. MOQ as a mystical experience is expressed as a dogma, e.g.,
    > DQ creates SQ.
    >
    > Trust in mystical experience enables me to come to an agreement with you
    > on matters of disagreement which we trust we have in common, but see as
    > different experiences. We compare our dogma and agree.
    >
    > Trust in too fantastic dogma, e.g. Galileo's assertion that the earth goes
    > around the sun, may take years to develop. Trust in too fantastic dogma
    > e.g. Christ resurrected his body from death to life is a contradiction
    > which can never be reconciled. Faith!
    >
    > And then the dogma that evolution has created levels: 3+1 =4.
    >
    > Joe
    >
    >
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