From: Arlo J. Bensinger (ajb102@psu.edu)
Date: Sun Nov 07 2004 - 05:21:10 GMT
> Arlo:
> > Simply evidence you've never read Marx.
>
> I can't believe you're defending Communism with its 20th century history
> of genocide across the globe.
>
Who's defending genocide? I'm pointing out that if Marx is guilty of genocide in
Russian, then Ben Franklin is guilty of it here. And for slavery and the kkk,
and lynchings.
Bad people do bad things in the name of ideology, Platt. But that does not mean
the ideology is at fault.
> > Unlike the U.S., I know of no geographical
> > > areas aside by Communists for their opponents to reside in peace.
> >
> > You mean after being forced off their land, lied to repeatedly in treaties,
> > given pox-infected blankets, denied justice in so-called "courts of law",
> > forced to death march across the country, been beaten in "missonary
> > schools" for speaking their mother tongue, and had their populations
> > exterminated from over 10 million down to around less than 1 million (it
> > has since risen back to around 2 million).
>
> Dubious history from liberal intellectuals with an agenda.
How so? Because newspeak history from conservative propaganda-ists with an
agenda want it to be so?
And what is our "liberal" agenda at that? to discredit the great and noble white
man and his holy nation that has been flawless and a beacon of illumination to
the barbaric and sub-perfect otherlands? Yeah, Platt, you have us liberal
intellectuals all figured out.... Our scheme to invent indian populations to
make moden day white men feel bad just isn't working is it?
As Pirsig
> points out: "Primitive tribes such as the American Indians have no record
> of sweetness and cooperation with other tribes. They ambushed them,
> tortured them, dashed their children's brains out on rocks." (Lila, 24) In
> other words, the killed each other off long before we arrived on the
> scene. Some Indian groups are more populous today than in 1492.
Who said they were sweet. I said we exterminated them.
And the pilgrim records that clearly show the delivery of pox-blankets, and
their recorded prayers thanking god for the sickness that was ravishing the
indian populations, the court records of land being clearly taken from indian
farmers and simply handed over to white farmers.. the written accounts of the
spanish "masters" in haiti descibing the mutilation and tortures, the first
hand accounts of the populations being decimated.
I see now why you have such contempt for academics.
Arlo
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