Re: MD On Transcendence

From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Wed Nov 10 2004 - 18:32:24 GMT

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    Ham

    How can we become aware of transcendence if not through experience?

    DM

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    > Ham to Mel
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    > Ham:
    >> Transcending does not mean simply
    >> encompassing higher and higher levels of physical reality, ad infinitum.
    >> It signifies a different reality altogether. ...
    >>
    > Mel:
    >> good point...I do run the risk of equivocating on that,
    >> but it also seems to me that non-being, in the sense of
    >> manifesting or Dynamic Quality might be a different
    >> quality of being rather than simple physical reality...
    >
    > In fact, what Pirsig calls Quality may not be "being" at all. It may be a
    > cosmic force or energy that encompasses all. If it were defined that way,
    > it could conceivably be regarded as the transcendent primary source.
    > However, I'm not inclined to elevate even Value to that status.
    > Attributes
    > like Quality and Value, no matter how encompassing we try to make them,
    > still allude to the experience of an observer in my opinion. Hence, unless
    > we take extreme liberties with common word definitions, they remain
    > dualistic references.
    >>
    > Essentially yours,
    > Ham
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