From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sat Nov 13 2004 - 20:19:42 GMT
MSH: After numerous long discussions with
various people, discussions wherein it was obvious my point was made,
as my final arguments were left unanswered, I was dismayed to see the
same people, a few posts later, talking to someone new but starting
over spewing the same old shit.
DM: Or maybe some of us thought we just could not get you up a level
despite out efforts. Confidence is not a bad thing, but neither is doubt.
Think harder, read wider, are you right, nothing you have said has
convinced me and 20 years a student of the history of science
must mean it is not ignorance about science that makes me disagree
with you? So I ask, are you really sure you have a grip on your facts?
I think people have offered some means to think outside of the box
you are in, I agree with Scott, the fact of evolution is a box even I do
not claim to see beyond, but random mutations plus natural selection,
its a mechanism that must occur, but a full explanation, I think not.
Deeper better ideas are needed. Here's a few:
Try Behe's Darwin's Black Box, Sheldrake's New Science of Life,
Koestler's The Case of the Midwife Toad, J Narby's The Cosmic Serpent,
Geoffrey Read's The Coherent Universe, Woolfson's Life Without Genes
-all with good science backgrounds- just for starters.
NB I am not keen either or any or the current design theories, most are
worst
than RM plus NS. Probably Read & Sheldrake offer the most interesting
long term prospects.
DM
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