RE: MD Wisconsin School OKs Creationism Teaching

From: mel (mbtlehn@ix.netcom.com)
Date: Sun Nov 14 2004 - 17:34:06 GMT

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    Hello Mark:

    Thank you!

    I had not quite realized how the
    fire-breathing fundamentalists
    did that, how they twisted things
    to create opposition ex nihilo.

    Your reply showed the technique
    of putting words in another's
    mouth with a clarity I had never
    before seen. You might be able
    to consult for any agenda holding
    evangelical who has not perfected
    the technique.

    Bravo!

    thanks--mel

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    [mailto:owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk] On Behalf Of Mark Steven Heyman
    Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2004 7:47 AM
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    Subject: RE: MD Wisconsin School OKs Creationism Teaching

    On 13 Nov 2004 at 17:14, mel wrote:
    Thanks for making my point!

    "Suppose there are only..."

    That's exactly the kind of thing
    that is the problem, pulling sphincter
    estimates rather than tracing the actual
    numbers; pretending to be able to say
    how and why everyone died and ignoring
    new information that does not fit in
    with a precious theory. Reality is more
    complex than armchair estimates.

    msh says:
    The point of my supposition is that the exact number of indians
    murdered by the land grab enshrined beneath the banner of "Manifest
    Destiny" is IRRELEVANT.

    Unless you are prepared to say that the US government did not
    consciously plan and carry out the removal of Native Americans from
    their lands, by whatever means necessary including mass
    extermination, then all your talk of numbers is evasive BS. And,
    despite your denial, your position is a rather obvious and obscene
    attempt to justify genocide.

    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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