From: David Morey (us@divadeus.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: Sun Nov 21 2004 - 15:52:07 GMT
look the sky is missing the sun blocked out, no it's a mountain,
no it's a pile of stone, no it's a building, no
it's a church, no it's really a community centre these days,
guess the sun's still there just absent for a while......in empirical
land....
loads of SQ of a non-material kind there
that cannot be 'seen' just to 'see', in a
4 level social and intellectual way what some 'object'
means.
DM
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Buchanan" <DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 1:16 AM
Subject: RE: MD Empiricism
>
> scott said:
> What is clear from this is that the way you want to extend "empirical" to
> include reason makes the word "empirical" lose any distinctive value it
> might have.
>
> dmb says:
> That's silly. The word just means that knowledge is based on experience,
> experience that is verifiable. As I've already tried to explain several
> times, expanding the basis of empirical experience beyond SENSORY
> EXPERINCE
> does not distort the meaning of this word, it only refers to a different
> kind of verifiable experience. Why is the mental experience of mathematics
> NOT empirical? To insist that the eye of flesh is the only eye is to be
> hopelessly materialistic, no? This is SOM. This is flatland. This is the
> limited epistemolgy that the MOQ is meant to overcome, see?
>
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