Re: MD Time Out - Source of Truth ?

From: Ian Glendinning (ian@psybertron.org)
Date: Wed Nov 24 2004 - 21:57:26 GMT

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    Mark,
    Yes, I probably did confuse.

    Correct - intellectual DQ is not generally constrained by society.
    The *only* valid constraint is that the intellectual must not "undermine"
    the social SQ.

    Ian

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:13 AM
    Subject: Re: MD Time Out - Source of Truth ?

    > On 23 Nov 2004 at 1:30, Ian Glendinning wrote:
    > I think the key is noticing when the intellectual debate you're
    > having is validly constrained by social "convention" - but as I say,
    > I'm new in this territory. I've been waiting two years for MD
    > discussions to get to this point free of the religious and
    > scientific baggage.
    >
    > I think the "debate" between levels of MoQ *IS* the source of truth.
    >
    > msh says:
    > I agree. But I don't understand what you said before. When is
    > intellectual debate validly constrained by social convention? Did
    > you mean to say invalidly constrained? IMO, any societal constraint
    > on debate or any other free exchange and interaction of ideas is
    > invalid and immoral. Always.
    >
    > Later,
    > Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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