Re: MD DQ people

From: john williams (ducati900@bigpond.com)
Date: Sun Jan 26 2003 - 01:01:44 GMT

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    Hey DMB

    I hadn't replied to Platts last post in that thread, I was still mulling
    over the way I wanted to approach it.

    I have to say I was quite amazed to be asked to keep politics out of it from
    the only person here who appears to be running a political agenda, anyway,
    whatever floats your boat. Maybe he meant don't name the politics.

    Being told that my original post was treating MoQ like a leftist manifesto
    reminded me of one of my favorite books though.

    "And then, one thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been
    nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to each other
    for a change." (Hitchhikers)

    I feel a lot like Jesus without the nails and the tree and the spear and
    what not.

    John from The Rock

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "David Buchanan" <DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org>
    To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 9:46 AM
    Subject: RE: MD DQ people

    > John, Platt and everyone with feet:
    >
    > Platt said:
    > I have no problem with your chosen worldview. Using government
    > jackboots to impose that view on others is the problem.
    >
    > John said:
    > Where did you ever get that idea? Collective improvement does not
    > require jackbooting of any kind, the type of things I look for are
    > Intellectual DQ solutions to the problems we all have in common, they're
    > already happening, I reckon we should expand these occurrence and that we
    > could come up with a template that would give us some thing to work with.
    >
    > John said:
    > I thought your jackboot metaphor was interesting because I think of anyone
    > with strong rightwing views is only a short trip to the shoe shop from
    being
    > a Fascist, only I wasn't going to let that out, I was going to keep it to
    > myself.
    >
    > DMB says:
    > Perhaps Platt doesn't know that in the Western world, big black boots,
    > preferably Doc Martians, are part of the unoffical neo-Nazi uniform. So I
    > think you're quite right, John. "Jackboots" are certainly associated with
    > right-wingers. There's no doubt. Platt uses the phrase, I suspect, because
    > he listens to G. Gordon Liddy, a fascists talk radio host who told his
    right
    > wing listeners that the police were nothing but "jackbooted thugs" and
    > instructed his fans to shoot them in the head should they ever dare to
    enter
    > thier homes. This notion was widely circulated around the time of the
    > Oaklahoma City Bombing by all kinds of right-wing extremists.
    >
    > Further, I agree with you about DQ people too. Pirsig's prime examples are
    > Lincoln and Ghandi. Both of them did things to make millions more free. If
    > that's not helpful, then nothing is.
    >
    > Say hello to the rock for me,
    > DMB
    >
    >
    >
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