Re: MD Self

From: Dan Glover (daneglover@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Dec 07 2004 - 08:16:45 GMT

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    >From: "Sam Norton" <elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk>
    >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
    >Subject: Re: MD Self
    >Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2004 18:57:36 -0000
    >
    >Hi Dan,
    >
    >Thanks for your comments on this, which I thought cogent. One thing though:
    >
    > > #1 might translate to the intellectual level. In my opinion, though,
    >Jesus
    > > is talking about #5, which points to something deeper, especially in
    >light
    > > of the two preceding verses:
    > >
    > > Then said Jesus onto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let
    >him
    > > deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will
    >save
    > > his life will lose it; and whosoever will lose his life for my sake will
    > > find it. (Matthew 16:24,25)
    > >
    > > i think it's possible Jesus is talking "Big self, small self" here, but
    >I
    > > also think you'll find Big self pertains to Dynamic Quality, not the
    > > intellectual level, and small self pertains to the person.
    >
    >Some hybrid of #1 and #5 is what I have in mind. When you say 'Big Self
    >pertains to DQ' etc, is
    >this something which Pirsig has said; is it a standard teaching of Buddhist
    >thought, or is it from
    >somewhere else? I'm happy to abandon that language as I think it may get in
    >the way of clarity.

    Hi Sam

    It's something that Robert Pirsig has said. From Lila's Child, annotation
    29:

    "In Zen, there is reference to “big self” and “small self.” Small self is
    the patterns. Big self is Dynamic Quality."

    Thank you for your comments,

    Dan

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