Re: MD Mysticism or Cosmic Debris?

From: Adam Watt (adamwatt@mac.com)
Date: Sun Dec 19 2004 - 07:56:03 GMT

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    Long route - Meditation

    Quick route - Mushrooms/Cacti

    The former compliments the latter, especially. If you haven't done
    either, do both as soon as possible is my heartfelt advice. Language is
    totally inadequate. And you might only be alive once..

    Usual short term/long term advantages/disadvantages apply, in an
    unusual sense. Do your research.

    On Sunday, December 19, 2004, at 06:16 am, Mark Steven Heyman wrote:

    > Hi all,
    >
    > I've been enjoying the recent spate of posts re mysticism, and must
    > admit I'm attracted to the idea that, from time, Reality drops her
    > drawers, if ever so briefly. I know I've experienced this, and I
    > can't imagine I'm all that different from the rest of humanity,
    > although my covivant promises me I am, I am (or to put it in her
    > words, "You have NO idea!").
    >
    > However, I'm a little skeptical of the "professional" aspect of the
    > revelation process. Whether it's DMB's recommendation of the web-
    > omnipresent Wilber or Sam's preferred hierarchy of power and ritual,
    > or Maharishi Mahesh Yogi taking beneath his wing the Fab Four, there
    > is to me a slight sense of hucksterism about anyone suggesting an
    > extremely low ratio of shepherd to sheep, and, little lamb, have I
    > got the shepherd for YOU!
    >
    > I don't want to seem overly cynical about this, but it seems like the
    > paths to guided enlightenment are directly proportional to one's
    > disposable income, I just don't get the sense that the gurus are
    > working the ghettos. Here ya go:
    >
    > The mystery man came over.
    > He said: "I'm outta sight."
    > He said: "For a nominal service charge
    > You could reach Nirvana tonight."
    >
    > If I was ready, willing and able
    > To pay him his regular fee,
    > He'd drop all the rest of his present affairs
    > And devote his attention to me!
    > Frank Zappa - Cosmic Debris
    >
    >
    > Anyway, I've started this thread so as not to sidetrack the ongoing
    > valuable discussions of mysticism. Thoughts? Comments? Attacks or
    > accusations?
    >
    > Best,
    > Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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