Re: MD If not now, when???

From: Phaedrus Wolff (PhaedrusWolff@carolina.rr.com)
Date: Fri Dec 31 2004 - 20:27:01 GMT

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    Marsha) --
    If not now, when???

    I wish peace and wisdom, love and trust for all my brothers and sisters.
     I wish for empathy, compassion and hope throughout the World.

    And for all of you I wish peace and joy in the coming year.

    Hi Marsha,

    In this little snippet from ZMM;

    Or if he takes whatever dull job he's stuck with...and they are all,
    sooner or later, dull...and, just to keep himself amused, starts to look
    for options of Quality, and secretly pursues these options, just for
    their own sake, thus making an art out of what he is doing, he's likely
    to discover that he becomes a much more interesting person and much less
    of an object to the people around him because his Quality decisions
    change him too. And not only the job and him, but others too because the
    Quality tends to fan out like waves. The Quality job he didn't think
    anyone was going to see is seen, and the person who sees it feels a
    little better because of it, and is likely to pass that feeling on to
    others, and in that way the Quality tends to keep on going. My personal
    feeling is that this is how any further improvement of the world will be
    done: by individuals making Quality decisions and that's all.

    you see a sorta Zen like thinking. You might notice the word
    'individuals' in " . . . by individuals making Quality decisions." In
    Zen thinking, you cure the world from within. It doesn't mean cure
    yourself and stop, but by starting from within, you expand out to your
    family, your circle of friends, your state, your Gov., and your world.

    You may see things from a high Quality level, but you must interact on a
    low Quality level. From your high Quality, or DQ, you interact with the
    static patterns, or SQ, and just by doing so, you improve the world.

    If you look upon war as you would a natural disaster in your little
    small part of the world, you know that these natural disasters are
    temporary, as war is temporary. Nature cures itself, and society cures
    itself, just as Pirsig's thoughts show the insane cure themselves. Just
    as a hurricane does not kill your neighborhood, neither does war kill
    society. What is happening in Iraq, for whatever reasons -- the reasons
    don't really matter, as there is nothing you can do now, just as you
    can't stop a hurricane -- it is a matter of the social patterns being
    destroyed. You can relate this to the shock therapy Pirsig went through;
    from the cultural patterns, within and without, there was nothing left
    but DQ. This DQ builds a new culture, in Pirsig's case, a culture of
    one; in Iraq's case, a culture of society.

    As an individual, what we can best do is discuss it among our family
    and friends, and if we are in a position to where we can discuss it
    around those who make the decisions, there as well. But as an individual
    who is not in position to change what is going on, all we can offer is
    our Quality to everyone around us. Maybe we can show that there is more
    Quality in making your own decisions as opposed to the decisions that
    are made for you from the media. To me, this kind of Quality could make
    a huge difference in the world, but it is only one small step, and all
    we can make is small steps; one Quality decision after another.

    Sometimes, doing nothing, or what gives off the idea we are doing
    nothing, is actually doing more that if we took action.

    Don't take this as heartless thinking, as I do see the suffereing in
    Iraq and Afgainistan, but I also see suffering all over the world,
    including here in the US that can have just as devistating effects.

    I think the idea is 'Think' on the higher levels, but you must interact
    on the lower levels. Maybe just living a Quality life is one of the most
    mystical events that can happen in your world. Just living a Quality
    life can change the world more than taking action to change the world.

    As Pirsig says, this Quality fans out.

    We can't suffer enough to stop the suffering of others, but we can make
    Quality decisions, one right after another, that will eventually fan
    out. Like the butterfly flapping her wings on the other side of the
    world, our Quality decisions do make a difference. It doesn't have to be
    active, as the serenity we act with can affect the peacefulness of those
    we don't even know we are communicating with.

    A very peace filled New Year to you too.

    Chin

    ----- Original Message -----

      From: MarshaV
      To: moq_discuss@moq.org
      Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 5:53 AM
      Subject: MD If not now, when???

      If not now, when???
      
      I wish peace and wisdom, love and trust for all my brothers and
    sisters. I wish for empathy, compassion and hope throughout the World.

      And for all of you I wish peace and joy in the coming year.

      Marsha

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