From: Phaedrus Wolff (PhaedrusWolff@carolina.rr.com)
Date: Mon Jan 03 2005 - 14:32:04 GMT
dmb)But c'mon Chin, does focusing on a child's homework, or
anything else, really have anything to do with direct experience of the
undifferentiated aesthetic continuum? No, of course it doesn't.
No-thing-ness has no things on which to focus nor any one to do the
focusing.
Hi dmb,
I say focusing on a child's homework (mine are out of school now; it was
just an example) has everything to do with undifferentiated aesthetic
continuum. The whole idea, the events, the experiences, the people, the
rocks are temporary, and a part of the change that is constantly going on
around us. The chair you sit on is energized with millions of electrons that
are in a constant dance with the universe. The mere lifting of a pencil,
turning of a page in a book, a glance from your child is an event, a part of
this dance of the particles and waves of the universe.
I had written much more than this, but I'll save you my mindless rambling.
The idea is the world is in a constant state of change, and the only way to
appreciate it is in the moment; one child, one flower at a time.
I can't help what you read into what I say, and I doubt if I made myself any
clearer, but it has nothing to do with the task; everything to do with the
moment. Poof! It's gone. Sorry you missed that one. :o)
Chin
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From: "David Buchanan" <DBuchanan@ClassicalRadio.org>
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Subject: RE: MD Is the MoQ still in the Kantosphere?
> Chin said to dmb:
> I think I may have thrown you off with the words " . . . where your total
> focus is on the moment." By moment, I don't mean a point in time, but a
> moment in focus. snip...Yes, it does mean become fully aware of the
> 'objects' that are in front of you, and it doesn't involve asking "Are
these
> objects real?" It simply means 'focus'. snip...There are Zen teachings
that
> involve spending years meditating, but there are also those that claim you
> can open up to a mystic experience while washing your bowl....snip
>
> dmb replies:
> Thrown off? I don't think so. I think we just disagree on the matter. As I
> understand it, lots of people understand Zen in this Americanized "chop
> wood, carry water" way and I never thought much of it. Its too Hallmarky
and
> sentimental. I believe it's based on the same misconceptions I've been
> getting at all weekend in this thread. No matter how you try to parse it,
> Chin, you are still talking about the realities of the divided world,
about
> things and events in the field of time and space. Again, this is exactly
> what I'm NOT talking about.
>
> I think you're really just romanticizing a common sense idea: that people
> should pay attention to their lives and not be distracted. Its a fine
idea.
> In my experience, most people are sort of numb and oblivious. I even wept
> about it once. But c'mon Chin, does focusing on a child's homework, or
> anything else, really have anything to do with direct experience of the
> undifferentiated aesthetic continuum? No, of course it doesn't.
> No-thing-ness has no things on which to focus nor any one to do the
> focusing.
>
> Or are you telling me that your daughter is gifted, goes to a special
school
> and her assignment that evening was to achieve Satori with her dad? No?
Well
> then please, gimme a break here ok? Sam may be on the verge of a
> breakthrough that is years in the making and you are most definately NOT
> helping.
>
> Like to fly-fishing with you sometime, but right now you're just bummin me
> out.
>
>
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