Re: MD The MOQ and Mysticism 101

From: Phaedrus Wolff (PhaedrusWolff@carolina.rr.com)
Date: Fri Jan 14 2005 - 23:09:17 GMT

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    Marsha)Then is God just what any Christian defines it to be?

    Chin)If the Christian view is what you were looking for, I imagine this
    would hold true, as the Christian would deny the Allah or Atman, or whatever
    God from any other religion, as the Christian view is exclusive to Christian
    beliefs and Christian interpretations of the Bible.

    If it were the definition of a religious God you were looking for, I imagine
    that you would need to change the word 'Christian' to 'Deitist', and that
    should pretty much cover it.

    If it were the street version you were looking for, it would be me, "A very
    handsome man." :o)

    What you think? (no need to answer #3)

    Actually, I feel I may not be representing well what I am trying to say. It
    is not a question of who is right. It is not a question of "God is." It is a
    question of how to spread the findings of the MOQ.

    Do we exclude ourselves from those we would like to join us?

    It may be, as I stated earlier, this is to tough a question to face. As long
    as we can all gather together, and yell "Hurray for our side," everything
    can be nice-n-easy. It is my belief this is the worst blinders we can wear;
    just as bad as the Victorian Principles of Christianity as we know it today,
    or the Victorian Principles of the Roman Catholic church in days of old when
    it was not allowed to print the Bible in English; "Poor people smell funny."

    We are only becoming another separatist group. So we are right; big deal. If
    we can't advance society our being right is of no worth.

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    >
    >
    > Then is God just what any Christian defines it to be?
    >
    >
    > At 07:38 AM 1/14/2005 -0500, you wrote:
    > >Marsha)How would the majority of Christians define God? And what would
    > >most likely be the origin of that definition?
    > >
    > >Chin)The point is that God is just as believable to the Christian as
    Quality
    > >is to us; not that God is more believable to us.
    > >
    > >It has been my experience the Christian will split God up into the
    Father,
    > >Son, and Holy Spirit, and it seems there is a play away from the Holy
    Spirit
    > >in some religions, but I can't say as I haven't been to a church since
    > >childhood.
    > >
    > >It would seem to me that if you didn't split the three, but recognized as
    I
    > >have found through discussions with Christians to be true now (I don't
    > >believe it was taught that way when I was a child) that Quality and God
    can
    > >be interchangeable and that the MOQ might make sense to the Christian.
    > >
    > >It is in the interpretations of the Bible that would cause the difficulty
    > >for the Christian sceptic, and these interpretations can be looked at in
    a
    > >new light that may work with the MOQ.
    > >
    > >My main point is to not exclude any group of people for their cultural
    > >beliefs. Otherwise, you would be pretty ,much be excluding the majority
    of
    > >people.
    > >
    > >Grown people are still much like children. If you meet them with anger
    and
    > >resentment, they will return the favor.
    >
    >
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