Re: MD The MOQ and Mysticism 101

From: Phaedrus Wolff (PhaedrusWolff@carolina.rr.com)
Date: Sat Jan 15 2005 - 15:57:26 GMT

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    Chin earlier)We are only becoming another separatist group. So we are right; big deal. If
    we can't advance society our being right is of no worth.

    Marsha) Again, write C-SPAN. MOQ resides in the intellectual level. It's at a higher level than the old-time religions. It will survive, or it won't. I'm betting it's time has come.

    Hi Marsha,

    You are right. The Democrat must balance out the Republican, but neither of those are on the intellectual level. Maybe being on the intellectual level, it is better to concentrate on the intellectual level; leave your truths out there for those who are not to accept or deny.

    I'm going to drop the subject.

    Chin

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: MarshaV
      To: moq_discuss@moq.org
      Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 7:05 AM
      Subject: Re: MD The MOQ and Mysticism 101

      At 06:09 PM 1/14/2005 -0500, you wrote:

        Chin)If the Christian view is what you were looking for, I imagine this
        would hold true, as the Christian would deny the Allah or Atman, or whatever
        God from any other religion, as the Christian view is exclusive to Christian
        beliefs and Christian interpretations of the Bible.

      Marsha) I bet if you asked 100 Christians to describe God and how it impacts on their individual life, you get 100 different answers. How many different interpretations should we include with MOQ? How should choice be made? Should the included God be one that answers prayers? Should it be a God that passes judgements on the goodness and badness of your life? If we include God, do we also include heaven and hell?

        If it were the definition of a religious God you were looking for, I imagine
        that you would need to change the word 'Christian' to 'Deitist', and that
        should pretty much cover it.

      Marsha) God - smod, who cares, it's all the same outdated static quality. Do we make room today for people who want to believe the world is flat?

        If it were the street version you were looking for, it would be me, "A very
        handsome man." :o)

      Marsha) Now here we can agree. If there exist divinity, it would be in you.

        Actually, I feel I may not be representing well what I am trying to say. It
        is not a question of who is right. It is not a question of "God is." It is a
        question of how to spread the findings of the MOQ.

      Marsha) Write to Brian Lamb at C-SPAN. Ask him to do an interview with Mr. Pirsig. Here's C-SPANS email address: viewer@c-span.org. Write to everyone?

        Do we exclude ourselves from those we would like to join us?

      Marsha) The emperor has no clothes!!! I didn't go to my grandsons baptism. I didn't tell anyone else what they should do, but I didn't go. Christianity survives because too many just go along with it. I could not attend and condone such silliness. I acted on my own thoughts.

        It may be, as I stated earlier, this is to tough a question to face. As long
        as we can all gather together, and yell "Hurray for our side," everything
        can be nice-n-easy. It is my belief this is the worst blinders we can wear;
        just as bad as the Victorian Principles of Christianity as we know it today,
        or the Victorian Principles of the Roman Catholic church in days of old when
        it was not allowed to print the Bible in English; "Poor people smell funny."

        We are only becoming another separatist group. So we are right; big deal. If
        we can't advance society our being right is of no worth.

      Marsha) Again, write C-SPAN. MOQ resides in the intellectual level. It's at a higher level than the old-time religions. It will survive, or it won't. I'm betting it's time has come.

      I bow to the Dynamic Quality within you.

      Marsha

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