From: Joseph Maurer (jhmau@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu Jan 20 2005 - 16:43:50 GMT
On 19 January 2005 8:20 PM Wolff writes to Joe:
HI Joe,
I didn't mean to challenge what you said. I meant my question as a simple
one. Better phrased, it might read;
How would you 'Think" intellect evolves?
Order and description wouldn't be key. Right?
Wolff (or you can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, just don't call me
late for dinner:)
Hi Wolff,
If there is a process in my thoughts about analogy, evolution, I would not
use the word 'description' as key.
IMO analogues for evolution are gravity (inorganic), purpose (organic),
existence (social order), creation (intellectual, unfinished s/o).
How an evolutionary analogy is pertinent from the inorganic order is not a
static description. Timeless 'operations' (evolution is in time, but the
analogy is timeless) sustain the analogy of dynamic/static quality. IMO
'description' is a word of time, and does not capture the word 'intellect'.
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Winchester" <phaedruswolff@hotmail.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: MD Logic, Analogy, Metaphor
> HI Joe,
>
> I didn't mean to challenge what you said. I meant my question as a simple
> one. Better phrased, it might read;
>
> How would you 'Think" intellect evolves?
>
> Order and description wouldn't be key. Right?
>
> Wolff (or you can call me Ray, or you can call me Jay, just don't call me
> late for dinner:)
>
>>From: "Joseph Maurer" <jhmau@sbcglobal.net>
>>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>>To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>
>>Subject: Re: MD Logic, Analogy, Metaphor
>>Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:14:42 -0800
>>
>>On 18 January 2005 8:37 PM Chin, er uh, Wolf Writes to Joe
>>
>>Hi Joe,
>>
>>May I ask how the intellectual level evolves?
>>
>>Chin, er uh, Wolff
>>
>>
>>Hi Chin, er uh, Wolf and all,
>>
>>I have no answer! I will repeat a couple of paragraphs and conclude IMO
>>that self- creation of a reflective self-awareness is the DQ analogue for
>>the intellectual level of evolution.
>>
>>[Joe] When metaphor and analogy are combined evolution, or the moral
>>levels occur. 'Supreme' has meaning only in the social level order in the
>>same way the order family, city, king has meaning. Yet the intellectual
>>level is the highest.
>>
>>What I was trying to point out in that paragraph is that 'order-metaphor'
>>tied to analogy creates an awareness of analogous DQ in terms of levels
>>(order).
>>
>>[JOE} IMO Analogy is used to express the mystical acceptance of the
>>levels. The term 'like' seems to emphasize the acceptance of different
>>levels. It is analogy to use as an explanation of the causes of WW I & II,
>>the struggle between the intellectual and social levels. Morality is
>>analogy in terms of DQ. However, as analogies, the inorganic, organic,
>>social, and intellectual levels are moral levels of quality everyone
>>accepts, as they accept the analogy of evolution into moral levels.
>>
>>IMO 'Like,' the trademark of an analogy, is not an empty word. What does
>>it mean? I suggest it is the mystical acceptance of (?) 'description'.
>>Logic satisfies the description of the inorganic and organic levels.
>>Metaphor from the social level describes an order in each level. Analogy
>>describes all levels in quality, relative evolution.
>>
>>Joe
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