RE: MD No Subject really: Reiki

From: Gert-Jan Peeters (gjpeeters@wish.nl)
Date: Thu Jan 30 2003 - 22:18:44 GMT

  • Next message: Mari: "Re: MD No Subject really: Reiki"

    Just getting the first few words out lately has been a struggle, especially
    when it comes to the MoQdg. i do notice a little more pause and reflection
    in everyday conversation about politics, world matters, and plane ole stuff
    that needs some degree of conscious consideration and "thinking". i notice
    this occurs more often now than it did before joining MoQ. But when it comes
    to matters involving the MoQdg directly, the hesitation is the greatest of
    all. Sometimes i put a few words down, then delete them, then write
    something "new" that has a familiar ring..... or i sit there looking at the
    blinking cursor.....paused, thinking about what's been said
    before....paused, wondering if there's a way of saying something differently
    this time around so it can possibly be received "better" or "best"?
    differently in any case.....

    The subject(s) discussed here in the MoQdg have been around for awhile (
    Pirsig and/or MoQ are supposed to be relative in some way if i am
    understanding the "purpose" and "guidelines"; correct me if i'm wrong or
    missing something besides the correct use of the semicolon; please )....i
    read the archives from time to time and it is interesting in my opinion how
    these subjects keep appearing without much sense of progress or reslove
    IMHO....In some ways it reminds me of the movie "Groundhog day"

    Like "Phil" in the movie: If he does nothing different(ly), events will
    repeat themselves as they were on the original day. But if he changes his
    behavior, people will respond to his new actions, opening up all kinds of
    possibilities for playing with the unfolding of events....maybe if i do
    something differently....maybe ....may be, maybe

    A few days ago someone made a comment about Pirsig's use of fiction ( the
    novel ) to get his philosophy heard. Will the person who said that
    re-present their statement/idea.

    Thank you for your time,

    Mari

    ____

    Reiki

    Well Mari..
    I'm not the one you seek. I didn't make any comment on Pirsig use of
    fiction. But I can throw something new into the MoQ_discuss.. Well.. maybe
    not.. but listen to this.. Maybe you like it..

    I'm just trying to create some philosophy that explains healing with your
    hands, reiki, aura, nostradamus, and all kind of other subjects that I still
    have problems explaining with. Offcourse I try to make a connection with the
    MoQ but I know others on this board can do this better.. It is like someone
    said the other day.. "We try to redefine our knowledge into a MoQ view" or
    something like that. That's why I try to combine one field of my interest
    with another field of my interest. This came out. And, allthough I know that
    it lacks the intellectual foundation a lot of people need to even finish the
    post, I thought 'let's give it a go, because it'll take years to satisfy the
    critics.."
    This is version 1.0 of this idea and maybe it will not survive.. But maybe
    its worth it.

    ____

    Static Pattern Fields

    first I'll make some statements
    Organization-pattern: The patterns that define the features of the system.
    Structure: The material embodiment of the organization-pattern
    Life-process: The activity that refreshes the structure of the
    organization-pattern.

    The Organization-pattern doesn’t end where the structure ends. There is a
    pattern field that stretches beyond its material source. The field of the
    static pattern or The Static Pattern Field.

    Every static pattern has a static pattern field that contains the static
    pattern. If new ‘embodiment’ enters the field it takes a place in this
    pattern. Making the static pattern grow.

    Static patterns are known as: - structure or ‘its bodies’
    An-organic Pattern – atoms/materials
    Biological Pattern – cells
    Social Pattern – biological entities
    Intellectual Pattern – ideas

    Example of an-organic pattern Field:
    An atom with an electron. The atom and the electron has its pattern. If
    other electrons are added, they will form themselves like the Pattern Field
    states. An other example is the growing water crystal. Forming themselves
    like a fractal.

    The static pattern field stretches out and only communicates with other
    static pattern fields of the same level.

    The an-organic pattern field can only communicate with other an-organic
    pattern fields.
    This makes it possible for material to communicate with each other. Copy
    successful patterns. Maybe over great distances.

    The biological pattern field can only communicate with other biological
    pattern fields.
    This makes it possible for life forms to communicate with each other.
    Copying successful patterns. This makes Bio-fields, Reiki, and other forms
    of lay-on-hands healing more plausible. It also says why it isn’t possible
    to measure those fields with electronic devices.

    The Social pattern field can only communicate with other social pattern
    fields.
    Everything that is capable of detecting social pattern fields can copy the
    pattern and become a part of it.

    The Intellectual pattern field can only communicate with other intellectual
    pattern fields.
    Meaning that every idea or philosophy that is not thrown out of the
    intellectual immune system is taken into the pattern. Intellectual pattern
    fields can communicate with each other. Some ideas that fit the pattern will
    spring from different minds on different places from the world.

    The different pattern fields exist completely next to each other, like the
    different levels do. Your intellectual pattern has no direct influence on
    an-organic patterns. You can not make a spoon bend just by thinking about
    it. (however, I’m still talking about static patterns, who knows what
    happens when Dynamic Quality kicks in.. who knows how much influence you
    have on an-organic patterns by just thinking about it)

    Just like in the chaos theory where patterns sometimes make jumps to more
    complex patterns, here the different static patterns can also jump to more
    complex ones. Dynamic Quality creates new patterns. Sometimes this process
    doesn’t go without the usual emitting of energy. Just like in the quantum
    theory when a pattern changes. Or the Social turn arounds we know from the
    past.

    So. I know my idea has Quality, but the explanation sucks.. But that's where
    this discussion forum is for, isn't it?
    GJ

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