From: Ron Winchester (phaedruswolff@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Jan 23 2005 - 21:28:39 GMT
msh asks all:
Why should we believe that removing all government regulation of
business will result in the highest quality environment for all
members of a society?
No laws prohibiting pollution, or enforcing product safety? No
minimum wage, no overtime pay, no health insurance, no workplace
safety standards, no restrictions on the use of child labor? Do we
really want to revert to 19th century standards of "free-enterprise"?
Do we want the commercial media to be full of advertisements for
tobacco and firearms? Crack? Hand grenades, land mines, WMD?
So, the question is, do we really want NO regulation of business
activity? What reason do we have to believe that 21st century people
whose main interest in life is to accumulate personal wealth will
behave any differently than their 19th century counter-parts?
If we can agree that some regulation of business activity is
necessary to move toward higher quality in our societies, then we
should be asking what sorts of regulation, and why?
Thanks to all for any thoughtful comments.
Chin D. Wolffwhisker;
Capitalism is the leading edge of corruption of society. We have left one
religion behind for another in which it is the right of business to dictate
work hours, health benefits, laws and regulations, and another diety which
proclaims the laws of man to fit the master. We have moved away from a
co-operative environment to a dictator environment where the worker has no
say as to the Quality of their work.
This to me is degrading to society by reducing the 'Worth' of the average
wage employee to no more than a 'Sweat shop' mentality of "We do not pay you
to think; we pay you to work."
Besides that, our Captialistic system could not survive without intervention
from the Gov in a period such as the last recession. The Gov, which also
sucks our wages out from under us in the form of taxes for our own good,
must spend when the average wage employee refuses to do so. Otherwise we
would just simply slip into another depression such as the ones before
Keynesian economics.
It is my simple belief that if we allowed Capitalsim to run unchecked, we
would be better off with Communism. JMHO
Pass me one of those little purple pills.
>From: "Mark Steven Heyman" <markheyman@infoproconsulting.com>
>Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>To: moq_discuss@moq.org
>Subject: MD Understanding Quality in Society
>Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:54:21 -0800
>
>Hi all,
>
>New thread, with an old theme. The comments below seem like a good
>place to start examining how we might facilitate movement toward
>higher quality societies. Should our socio-economic systems be
>completely free of government regulation and other forms of
>intervention?
>
>msh before:
> > We could,
> > however, work to implement such a system. A good start would be
> > for the government to refuse to bail out failed and/or corrupt
> > businesses, such as energy companies, banks, airlines, weapons
> > manufacturers, and to stop funding corporate research and
> > development through grants and use of publicly owned research
> > facilities such as university labs.
>
>platt:
>I agree with all that on condition that the government also remove
>all regulation and taxation of the organizations you mention..
>
>msh asks all:
>Why should we believe that removing all government regulation of
>business will result in the highest quality environment for all
>members of a society?
>
>No laws prohibiting pollution, or enforcing product safety? No
>minimum wage, no overtime pay, no health insurance, no workplace
>safety standards, no restrictions on the use of child labor? Do we
>really want to revert to 19th century standards of "free-enterprise"?
>Do we want the commercial media to be full of advertisements for
>tobacco and firearms? Crack? Hand grenades, land mines, WMD?
>
>So, the question is, do we really want NO regulation of business
>activity? What reason do we have to believe that 21st century people
>whose main interest in life is to accumulate personal wealth will
>behave any differently than their 19th century counter-parts?
>
>If we can agree that some regulation of business activity is
>necessary to move toward higher quality in our societies, then we
>should be asking what sorts of regulation, and why?
>
>Thanks to all for any thoughtful comments.
>
>Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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