Re: MD Understanding Quality in Society

From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Mon Jan 24 2005 - 05:42:31 GMT

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    Dear Mark H.,

    You proposed 23 Jan 2005 11:54:21 -0800 another examination how we might
    facilitate movement toward higher quality societies, concentrating on the
    question whether our socio-economic systems should be completely free of
    government regulation and other forms of intervention.

    I don't think so, but it depends on the situation and I'm certainly not in
    favour of too much government regulation of the economy. Let me explain.
    The economy (the way in which we organize that everyone gets what he/she
    wants) can be organized with the help op several principles of which
    'enforcement' (the defining principle) is only one. The others I distinguish
    are:
    - natural order (old being wiser than young, male being stronger than
    female, some races supposedly being somehow better than others, the gods
    supposedly having gifted some individuals more than others)
    - force (from brigands robbing travellers on pain of death to governments
    demanding payment of taxes on pain of imprisonment)
    - dependence (poor labourers' dependence on land- or capital-owners to
    provide them with essential means of production, consumers' dependence on
    buying something they need, producers' dependence on outlets for their
    product etc.)
    - convincement (that cooperating in a specific way under someone's
    leadership is the best for everyone)
    Each of these principles can be seen as a way to make others work for you.
    They can also be understood as BOTH ways to create more collective wealth
    and survival chances for a society as a whole AND ways to create a social
    elite that gets more than it needs. The balance between these two effects
    determines whether it also creates an underclass that gets les than it
    needs.

    Combining them can help to create balance. Democratic government combines
    force and convincement. Calling something 'democratic' doesn't guarantee
    such balance however...
    Anyway, we need all these principles in modern economies, even though we
    would like the role of 'convincement' to grow.

    With friendly greetings,

    Wim

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