From: Arlo J. Bensinger (ajb102@psu.edu)
Date: Thu Jan 27 2005 - 02:48:04 GMT
Hola Refugio,
Bienvenida. Before I can address your thoughtful post at length, I did want to
send of a quick welcome note, and to simply say this:
When 22 year-old, bilingual, multicultural people are reading and discussing
Pirsig, and can pose such interesting questions to consider, I doubt the future
generation has much to fear. Indeed, I have renewed optimism. :-)
More later (so much work today), and again, welcome.
Arlo
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:48:03, Thefallacyofhate@aol.com wrote:
> Good Morning, Good Afternoon, and Good Evening;
>
> I am a new member to MOQ and have recently just finished ZMM: an inquiry
> into values. The end of the book (afterward) referred to this website and so
my
> curiosity and interest lured me here. I liked what I read so I decided to
> join this mailing list. I will simply introduce myself as Refugio, which
means
> "refuge" in Spanish, and I have to say that I am only 22yrs old, so if my
form
> of communication comes off as "ignorant," or "close-minded," i mean not to
> offend.
>
> The reason for my post is to introduce myself and to hopefully spawn a new
> dialogue on the future generation that is coming into fruition. I speak of
the
> children who grew up in the 90s (myself included) and what effect they will
> have on this world. Of course I can only speak through one perspective...my
> own, and so in order to fully understand "my own generation," i will need
help
> in obtaining that bigger picture. So please share with me your views of my
> generation and what you believe is to become of us.
>
> As for my perspective, I have experienced experiences within the confines of
> the United States barrier, which must be further confined to a city known as
> Los Angeles. The furthest I have ventured from my hometown is to a small
> town in Mexico near the city of Rosarito. But that "trip" had little to do
with
> experiencing the cultures and peoples, in fact I have not had such venturings
> (don't think that's a word, but it fits) of that matter. So, ultimately I
> have to say that my perspective is very limited, but a perspective
nonetheless.
>
> So as to not drag this into a long message, I will say that my belief of the
> generation here in Los Angeles will continue along the path of imitation and
> for lack of a better word "fakeness." And if you want to see this, because
> you can actually see it, then a drive down one of downtown LA's streets would
> serve the purpose. All you have to do while driving through is look up and
> you will see a plethora of enormous, architecturally magnificent buildings
> towering over you. But once you bring your vision down to the horizon level,
what
> you will see is people, actual human beings, living on the sidewalk. The
> question that always lingers in my mind is how could a city of this size
bleed
> so much poverty? How can people drive in their $50,000 cars after seeing
> something such as this? And then I think...will this get any better or will
it
> get worse?
>
> If you have read up to this point, I sincerely thank you. I thank you for
> reading my words and I hope an insightful dialogue can be stricken. As for my
> thoughts on ZMM...well the only statement I can come up with is that I
> probably wouldn't be writing this if it didn't have some type of impact. Take
care.
>
> Refugio
>
>
>
>
>
> Good Morning, Good Afternoon, and Good Evening;
>
> I am a new member to MOQ and have recently just finished ZMM: an
> inquiry into values. The end of the book (afterward) referred to this
> website and so my curiosity and interest lured me here. I liked what I read
> so I decided to join this mailing list. I will simply introduce
> myself as Refugio, which means "refuge" in Spanish, and I have to
> say that I am only 22yrs old, so if my form of communication comes off
> as "ignorant," or "close-minded," i mean not to offend.
>
> The reason for my post is to introduce myself and to hopefully
> spawn a new dialogue on the future generation that is coming into
> fruition. I speak of the children who grew up in the 90s (myself included) and
> what effect they will have on this world. Of course I can only speak through
one
> perspective...my own, and so in order to fully understand "my own
> generation," i will need help in obtaining that bigger picture. So please
share
> with me your views of my generation and what you believe is to become of
> us.
>
> As for my perspective, I have experienced experiences within the confines
> of the United States barrier, which must be further confined to a city
> known as Los Angeles. The furthest I have ventured from my hometown is to a
> small town in Mexico near the city of Rosarito. But that "trip" had little
> to do with experiencing the cultures and peoples, in fact I have not
> had such venturings (don't think that's a word, but it fits) of that matter.
So,
> ultimately I have to say that my perspective is very limited, but a
perspective
> nonetheless.
>
> So as to not drag this into a long message, I will say that my belief
> of the generation here in Los Angeles will continue along the path of
> imitation and for lack of a better word "fakeness." And if you
> want to see this, because you can actually see it, then a drive down one of
> downtown LA's streets would serve the purpose. All you have to do
> while driving through is look up and you will see a plethora of
> enormous, architecturally magnificent buildings towering over
> you. But once you bring your vision down to the horizon level, what you
> will see is people, actual human beings, living on the sidewalk. The
> question that always lingers in my mind is how could a city of this size
> bleed so much poverty? How can people drive in their $50,000 cars
> after seeing something such as this? And then I think...will
> this get any better or will it get worse?
>
> If you have read up to this point, I sincerely thank you. I thank you
> for reading my words and I hope an insightful dialogue can be
> stricken. As for my thoughts on ZMM...well the only statement I can come up
> with is that I probably wouldn't be writing this if it didn't have
> some type of impact. Take care.
>
> Refugio
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