RE: MD Linguistics (Was Kantian etc ...)

From: Matt Kundert (pirsigaffliction@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Feb 15 2005 - 19:13:12 GMT

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    Hey Ian,

    Ian said:
    Philosophy / Physics, Meta or not - the question is the same, "how does that
    work ?" - the answer ought to be the same the closer we get to agreement,
    the only difference being the language used IMHO. This "great convergence"
    is often pooh-poohed by expert / specialists, but I think it is real in
    these days of mass communication.

    Matt:
    Maybe, but I doubt there is any reason to say think that, _in general_,
    there will be a "great convergence." Pragmatists eschew such
    Peircian/Habermasian-like claims. For instance, I doubt we will ever reach
    convergence on whether or not "Seinfeld" was a good show or not. Or whether
    blonds are more fun. When agreement happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it
    doesn't. There are no general reasons to think that any line of inquiry
    will end in absolute agreement. So might, others might not. In academics,
    we've found over the years that fields called "scientific" tend to converge
    and fields called "literary" or "humanisitic" don't, but that's still not a
    reason to think that all scientific theories will converge in the end and
    literary theories won't.

    Ian said:
    I'm reading Searle's "Mind - A Brief Introduction" - I impatiently crticised
    him in some earlier blog posts, but I have to say he talks about as much
    common sense as I've seen in a long time. I don't think he'd disagree with
    the synthesis above, even if you feel I may be stretching it.

    Matt:
    Eew, Searle. Yeah, he may agree with you above on the whole "great
    convergence" thing, but that's because, as far as I know, Searle's still a
    realist, as opposed to a pragmatist. I think he dovetails on a number of
    topics in the philosophy of language and mind with pragmatist renderings of
    those fields, but he's still a hold out on a few positions.

    Matt

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