RE: MD Whither "direct," "pure," and "immediate"?

From: Dan Glover (daneglover@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Mar 15 2005 - 03:07:01 GMT

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    Hello everyone

    >From: "max demian" <oikoumenist@hotmail.com>
    >Reply-To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >To: moq_discuss@moq.org
    >Subject: RE: MD Whither "direct," "pure," and "immediate"?
    >Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:37:03 -0700
    >
    >Hello Matt, Dan, all…
    >
    >I don’t really know where this string has been in the past, but I had an
    >idea or question after reading the last couple of posts:
    >
    >Is it possible to have an event that is experienced prior immediate
    >mediation? What about an event that is not immediately mediated?

    Hi Max

    I assume that you've read Lila? If so, then the hot stove analogy comes to
    mind: "He does not think, "This stove is hot," and then make a rational
    decision to get off. A "dim apprehension of he knows not what" gets him off
    Dynamically. Later he generates static patterns of thought to explain the
    situation." (Lila, page 133-134)

    I'm in the middle of a wonderfully complex and very difficult book (which
    Ian recommended) called Zen and the Brain by Dr. James Austin. I highly
    recommend it too. It seems that pain is not generated at the site of the
    injury but rather in specific parts of the brain that correspond to site of
    the injury. This is one reason why I tend to say that experience is never
    direct for a flow through the brain seems to generate experience, not the
    experience itself. But I could be wrong, as my old friend Roger used to
    say...

    >
    >In the spirit of Dan’s idea of second hand experience, I thought of another
    >instance where direct experience is even further removed. In reality T V,
    >not only is ‘reality’ an orchestrated reality, but also the producers
    >choose what ‘reality’ is shown on T V before it is even experienced by the
    >viewer.

    My family makes fun of my tendency to read and write rather than watch tv. I
    don't mind. I understand that culturally we are a tv watching nation here in
    the USA. I've heard of reality tv of course but I've never watched so I
    don't think I'm qualified to comment but your thought sounds about right.

    Thank you for your comments,

    Dan

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