From: edeads (edeads@prodigy.net)
Date: Sat Mar 26 2005 - 01:43:46 GMT
I watched this wonderful series of videos on the history of rock & roll. I
think it was Judy Collins that said there was Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, and
then there's the rest of us. Dylan is one of America's great poets -- up on
my wall I have one of his quotes...
When you feel in your gut what you are and then dynamically pursue it --
don't back down and don't give up -- then you're going to mystify a lot of
folks
A degenerate? Sounds to me like the MOQ at its best.
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I always applaud good reasoned arguments. Yet I always find that poetry
loosens the rational grip that cannot hold.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Platt Holden" <pholden@sc.rr.com>
To: <moq_discuss@moq.org>; <owner-moq_discuss@venus.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: MD Nihilism (Punk)
> All:
>
> Just to counter Arlo's accusation that Ham and are alone in determining
> rock is about sex . . .
>
> "That's what rock is all about -sex with a 100 megaton bomb, the beat." --
> Gene Simmons of the rock group Kiss
>
> "Sex has been rock music's number one message since the medium was
born." -
> - "Why Knock Rock?"
>
> "Rock n' roll is all sex. One hundred percent sex." -- Debbie Harry of the
> rock band Blondie.
>
> "Rock n' roll is 99 percent sex." -- John Oates of the rock duo Hall and
> Oates
>
> "When you're in a certain frame of mind, particularly sexually-oriented,
> there's nothing better than rock and roll because that's where most of the
> performers are at." -- Aerosmith's manager
>
> "Rock music is sex and you have to hit them (teenagers) in the face with
> it." -- Andrew Oldham, manager of the Rolling Stones
>
> "Rock n' roll is sex. Real rock n' roll isn't based on cerebral thoughts.
> It's based on one's lower nature." -- Paul Stanley
>
> "Rock is the total celebration of the physical." -- Ted Nugent
>
> In dancing to rock, " the pelvis is crucial." -- "Time" magazine
>
> . . . or that rock has a sexual beat . . .:
>
> "Rock music is sex. The big beat matches the body's rhythms" -- Frank
> Zappa of the Mothers of Invention
>
> "An incessant beat does erode a sense of responsibility in much the same
> way as alcohol does. You feel in the grip of a relentless stream of sound
> to which something very basic and primitive in human nature responds." --
> David Winter, "New Singer, New Song"
>
> "We respond to the materiality of rock's sounds, and the rock experience
> is essentially erotic." -- Simon Frith, "Sound Effects"
>
> Mostly, the appeal is it's relentless beat. It is perhaps the most kinetic
> sound since the tom-tom or the jungle drum. Its appeal, one 16-year-old
> girl frankly admits, 'is sex-but don't print that; my mother would hit
> me.'" -- "Time" magazine
>
> . . . or that rock is degenerate . . .
>
>
> "Rock and roll's corrupt degenerate lifestyle if fueled by the language of
> a certain kind of music." -- Leonard Seidel, "Face the Music"
>
> "At the very least, rock is turning sex into something casual." -- James
> Conner, Newsweek
>
> "Violence and energy-and that's really what rock & roll's all about" --
> Mick Jagger
>
> "(Rock) is by nature a music of demonic rebellion and protest. Drugs and
> sex are its arsenal." -- David Noebel, "The Legacy of John Lennon
>
> "The themes of rock n' roll include rebellion, homosexuality, satanism,
> the occult, drugs, murder, suicide, incest, vulgarity, sadomasochism,
anti-
> patriotism and above all, free sex." -- Fletcher Brothers
>
> "Rock n' roll is pagan and primitive, and very jungle, and that's how it
> should be! The moment it stops being those things, it's dead . . . the
> true meaning of rock . . . is sex, subversion and style." -- Malcolm
> McLaren, punk rock manager
>
> "You don't listen to rock; it baptizes you with a liturgy of sex, drugs,
> perversion and the occult." -- Bo Larson, "Rock"
>
> "These are the three great lyrical themes (of rock): sex, hate and a
> swarmy, hypocritical version of brotherly love." -- Allan Bloom
>
> Of course, according to Arlo, anyone with any of the views expressed above
> is narcissistic, obsessive, idiotic, vapid, foolish, nonsensical,
> laughable, tricky, stupid and otherwise deserving of contempt. Be not
> surprised -- ad hominem argument comes naturally to those on the left.
>
> Platt
>
>
>
>
>
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