From: Seth Low (low@charm.net)
Date: Tue Mar 29 2005 - 17:44:30 BST
<<<[Ant:] Why even have a notion of a theistic God or even established
religions when we already have a "special relation to Quality that no
one [else] can override"?
To which Sam says: mu.>>>
I'll just jump in here, though I haven't been following the thread of
which this snippet is a part.
Ant's question and Sam's answer have both been on my mind lately. I
think they're both excellent. In church, I've chafed at having there
need to be a creed full of specifics and an official story that all must
use. There's a phrase from the AA/12 step program, "God *as we
understood him*" which corresponds to that "special relation to
Quality." That individually tailored connection to Quality is more
free- and comfortable-feeling.
But I think Sam is right on in answering "mu", because there is also
something gained through having to belong to the group and grapple with
the particular story and be affected by it and informed by it,
frustrating though this can be.
I don't know whether in Pirsigian terms the story is a kind of "static
ratchet-latch" or whether it's Society's way of encountering Quality or
just what.
I know that in Christian language, a "personal relationship with Jesus
Christ" means the same as "a special relationship to Quality that no one
else can override."
I suppose the Easter miracle Ant speaks of could be a letting go of ANY
lingo and just connecting with Dynamic Quality. Except that of course
"Dynamic Quality" (the term) has to go, too.
It relates to the stuff about insanity because what the lingo does is
allows us church people to get there *together*--just as the Moq lingo
is allowing us to meet on common ground here.
Seth
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