Re: MD Static and dynamic aspects of mysticism and religious experience

From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk)
Date: Thu Apr 07 2005 - 12:22:28 BST

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    Marsha -

    Religion does mean to bind together (same root as the word 'ligament'), it
    also has the sense of 'connect', presumably connect to quality.

    But the interesting thing is whether it's good to be bound to a culture. I
    would say that it is as good (and as inevitable and healthy) to be bound to
    a culture as it is to be bound to our bodies and the physical appetites like
    food. You don't want your life to be controlled by food, but it is something
    that it is sensible to ensure you have an adequate supply of. In the same
    way, our social level bindings shouldn't control us, but we should ensure
    that those needs are well tended, otherwise we become emaciated in some
    shape or form (socially and spiritually, if not physically).

    One of the reasons why I occasionally make cracks about 'Protestant culture'
    is that it seems to be trapped in the Lutheran moment, and obsessed with
    separating itself out from social influences etc - as if it was possible to
    do away with our sociality. We can no more do away with our sociality than
    we could do away with our physical appetites. In just the same way that
    religion allows someone to overcome their biological appetites there are
    also resources which provide for the overcoming of the social level (it's
    what drove the origins of monasticism) - as Luther found himself in reading
    the Bible, and from being a monk.

    I'm all in favour of not being bound by the social level etc. It's what
    traditional Christian language calls 'the world'. I just don't think you
    have to make a great drama out of it, and once you've recognised it and have
    started along a higher path, you don't have to keep revisiting it and
    defining your identity by that transition - another thing which I think
    Protestant culture, especially in the US, succumbs to. (And, of course, I
    don't see a religious commitment as the equivalent of a lobotomy, something
    I know you disagree with, along with others here).

    Sam

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