From: Scott Roberts (jse885@localnet.com)
Date: Sun Apr 24 2005 - 04:53:50 BST
DMB,
Scott said:
Oh yes, and I'm still waiting for an example where science and contemporary,
non-fundamentalist theism are in conflict. As I've said before, you're about
50 to 100 years out of date.
dmb says:
I really don't know what you mean. What is "contemporary non-fundametalist
theism"?
Scott:
Theism that understands that some things in the Bible are not to be taken
literally.
dmb said:
How is the dogma of Catholic church NOT in conflict with science
when it asserts such things as miracles? How is it NOT unreasonable to
believe that bread and wine are transformed into the body and blood of
Christ. How about the virgin birth? The ressurection? I can see that Sam has
tried to make such things seems reasonable, but I just don't get it. And
your response here is so very thin that it literally means nothing to me.
Please explain.
Scott:
A miracle is a supernatural interruption of the natural order. Science
explores in depth the natural order. It has nothing to say on whether or not
that order can be supernaturally interrupted. On transubstantiation, see my
reply to Anthony. Scientism and theism are in conflict. Science and theism
are not.
On "reasonable", you might be interested in the following, said by Juanita
Marquez, a character in Neal Stephenson's novel *Snow Crash*
"Nintey-nine percent of everything that goes on in most Christian churches
has nothing whatsoever to do with the actual religion. Intelligent people
all notice this sooner or later, and they conclude that the entire one
hundred percent is bullshit, which is why atheism is connected with being
intelligent in people's minds."
- Scott
- Scott
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