From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Tue Apr 26 2005 - 20:19:45 BST
On 26 Apr 2005 at 17:03, Sam Norton wrote:
> msh:
> Here's the unasked for clarification: Catholics who believe in
> transubstantion are NOT being metaphorical, or even poetic.
sam:
The spirit of Mr Clinton hovers in the background: 'it depends on
what the meaning of "is" is'......
<snip the substance/accidents stuff... but thanks for the
explanation>
So even a catholic doesn't think that the bread has turned into human
flesh. What Pirsig says in Lila is false - or, if I'm being
charitable, seriously misleading.
msh says:
Well, it doesn't taste like flesh and blood, but it IS Christ's flesh
and blood. At least that's what Sister Mary at St. Matthias told us;
I still remember a room full of seven-year-olds going "Ewwwwwwww."
But maybe she didn't read Aquinas.
> Here's what Witt had to say:
>
> "If you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, stop talking
> and ask, then listen..." - Ludwig Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-
> Philosophicus
sam:
Good advice, (including for Pirsig) but I couldn't find the reference
in my copy ;-)
msh says:
You're not looking in the right place. The quotation sort of
appeared, miraculously, on my computer screen, last night.
Later,
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
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