From: Scott Roberts (jse885@localnet.com)
Date: Thu Apr 28 2005 - 18:17:45 BST
Arlo et al,
Arlo said:
Platt's just upset because no one is rushing in to defend his
distortions and deliberately manipulated "skews" of history. So, let's
be fair and ask outright... is there anyone else on this list that
believes (1) "brutality" emerged only with the advent of "secular"
power, (2) "freedom" is a "christian concept" given to us by "christian
theology" and not reason (or, for that matter, any "other" theology),
(3) the benevolent years during which the "church" wielded power were
the freest, most democratic, wonderful years of utopic peace known in
history??
Scott:
I thought you were against distortion? I see no indication that Platt holds
with (1) or (3). On (1) Platt is saying that the advent of the "secular"
made brutality worse, not that it didn't exist beforehand, and that, I
think, is an arguable topic (but one I'm not eager to argue about). On (3),
where does he say anything remotely like this? But I agree with you on (2),
given that Jefferson is not to be regarded as a Christian prophet.
I think it is also wrong when you say: "Why did the "church" not dissolve
the monarchical system throughout the era 360-1800 when it wielded the power
to do so?" While I certainly don't think the church even considered
dissolving the monarchical system, even if it did, it would not have had the
power to do so. Don't forget that the church often had to struggle with the
kings to appoint its own bishops. On occasion a monarch would create his own
pope if necessary.
- Scott
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