Re: MD Access to Quality

From: Arlo J. Bensinger (ajb102@psu.edu)
Date: Thu Apr 28 2005 - 23:56:34 BST

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    On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:17:45 +0000, "Scott Roberts" wrote:

    > Arlo et al,
    >
    > Arlo said:
    > Platt's just upset because no one is rushing in to defend his
    > distortions and deliberately manipulated "skews" of history. So, let's
    > be fair and ask outright... is there anyone else on this list that
    > believes (1) "brutality" emerged only with the advent of "secular"
    > power, (2) "freedom" is a "christian concept" given to us by "christian
    > theology" and not reason (or, for that matter, any "other" theology),
    > (3) the benevolent years during which the "church" wielded power were
    > the freest, most democratic, wonderful years of utopic peace known in
    > history??
    >
    > Scott:
    > I thought you were against distortion? I see no indication that Platt holds
    > with (1) or (3). On (1) Platt is saying that the advent of the "secular"
    > made brutality worse, not that it didn't exist beforehand, and that, I
    > think, is an arguable topic (but one I'm not eager to argue about). On (3),
    > where does he say anything remotely like this? But I agree with you on (2),
    > given that Jefferson is not to be regarded as a Christian prophet.
    >
    > I think it is also wrong when you say: "Why did the "church" not dissolve
    > the monarchical system throughout the era 360-1800 when it wielded the power
    > to do so?" While I certainly don't think the church even considered
    > dissolving the monarchical system, even if it did, it would not have had the
    > power to do so. Don't forget that the church often had to struggle with the
    > kings to appoint its own bishops. On occasion a monarch would create his own
    > pope if necessary.
    >
    > - Scott
    >
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