From: Scott Roberts (jse885@localnet.com)
Date: Mon May 16 2005 - 19:00:56 BST
Platt,
MSH wrote:
> I think Pirsig opened a can of worms when he left his Holy trinity of SOQ
> and tried to make Quality the primary source. He never defends this
> statement, he just sets Quality at the top and away we go. Now, I think
we
> can argue that he ASSUMES this to be true in order to get his metaphysics
> off the ground. But, if Pirsig believes he is speaking literal truth in
> this regard, then his belief is due to some mystical revelation and would
> indeed be no different than St. Joan claiming God talks to her, that is,
it
> may or may not be true, but the claim of revelation is not enough to prove
> it. Not for me, anyway.
Platt responded:
No assumptions or revelations required. Pirsig lays down Quality as his
first marker based on an axiomatic undeniability:
"He had demonstrated that even though you can't define Quality you still
must agree that it exists, since a world from which value is subtracted
becomes unrecognizable." (Lila, 9)
Scott:
Mark is not denying Quality, nor do I. He is denying the notion that
"Quality is the primary source" is empirical. So do I. Assumptions or
revelations are required to move from "Quality exists" to "Everything is a
consequence of Quality".
- Scott
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