Re: MD Primary Reality

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Wed Jun 08 2005 - 15:55:10 BST

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    Hi Ham,

    I'll respond to your basic critique of the MOQ in simple terms, as you
    requested.

    > Apparently you folks are so intimidated by
    > the scourge of SOM that you can't allow even the concept of a material
    > reality prior to human experience.

    Wrong. We allow the concept. We call it a high quality concept. But we
    recognize it as an assumption. We cannot directly experience reality prior
    to our experience.

    >That's ironic because, to people like
    > me, the MoQ's major shortcoming is its failure to acknowledge a
    > transcendent reality!

    Wrong. We acknowledge transcendent reality. We allow the concept. We call
    the "aesthetic continuum, " a high quality concept. But we recognize it as
    an assumption, though by rare instances of beauty we directly experience
    it prior to assumptions.

    We believe our MOQ and your metaphysics are both based on assumptions
    that follow from value-loaded direct experience. For reasons we've given
    over the years, we consider the assumptions of the MOQ to be better than
    those of your Essentialism.You believe your reasons for supporting your
    metaphysics are better than ours for supporting the MOQ. The difference we
    believe is value-loaded experience, yours vs. ours, which we believe to be
    reality for us both.

    Why believe that direct experience is value-loaded? The best answer, "See
    for yourself." The logical answer, "Because you cannot refute the belief
    without asserting a value."

    But, there is no one right answer to the question, "What is real?" any
    more than there is only one right way to think. We argue as if right and
    wrong answers exist only because logic so demands. And because it's fun.

    Best,
    Platt

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