Re: MD Primary Reality

From: Johannes Volmert (jvolmert@student.uni-kassel.de)
Date: Tue Jun 21 2005 - 21:16:49 BST

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    Hi Bo,

    I do know that I owe you an answer on your new essay as it is sort of an
    answer to my "compliance" back then in last years exchange (Jan '04). I
    read it once, then I printed it and read it twice but I'm afraid to say
    that I still can make not much more sense out of it then before. Due to
    a lack of time, I have to postpone my evaluation of it. Until then
    (until I have taken a concise position) of course I'm not quite
    legitimated to take again a controversial stand. As to my last post:
    <>
    Johannes Volmert wrote:

    > <>Hi Allen,
    > you are, as you seem to know already, not the first one to discuss
    > with Bo his ideas (SOLAQI etc.) und you sure will not be the last one.
    > Some of the people who did so in the past are still around, but stay
    > away from that argument, normally.

    Bo answered:

    >Implied .. a maniac who won't listen to reason ;-). After my
    >"second coming" however I have managed to make this forum's
    >heavy-weight Matt Kundert understand the MOQ by the SOL-light
    >(Bei'm Sonnenschein) and that's no small feat. He has objections
    >of course, but his are from the Kundert "factory" and not like
    >these ever new arrivals who think I am a MOQ heretic.
    >
    >
    JoVo says:

    I don't think you consider me after all these years as a "new arrival" ,
    I hope. As you seem to ackknowledge the basic tenets of the MoQ (I
    suppose so!) you cannot really believe that I accept your SOL-idea, just
    because Matt Kundert is vowing positivly on some points of your stand,
    do you?
    Matts posts are mostly a good read. He argues clearly, concisely and
    leaves seldom doubt about his point of view. But altough I haven't read
    all his posts (upon this issue), I have doubts that he shares your point
    of view as you seem to assume.

    JoVo wrote:

    >>But there is no reason to get upset
    >>about Bo. Don't make a personal thing out of it. As you can see, Bo
    >>himself stays calm and friendly and is by the way (with at least one
    >>minor exception: "Don't mention the war!" ;-)) ) a very appreciated
    >>member of this discussion forum.
    >>
    >>

    Bo answered:

    >Was it the Squonk ...or?
    >
    >

    JoVo says:
    I just don't know what exactly you want to allude to here, but the
    favourite issue of yours, I want to adress is just the named one
    (SOLAQI, SOL or alike....).

    JoVo said (to Allen):

    >>Nevertheless, your arguments seem to
    >>be valid and right to the point, but that isn't any help sometimes!
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    Bo asked in return:

    >Allen's arguments valid and right to the point? Can you translate
    >them for me? Seriously.
    >
    >
    JoVo says:
    I simply referred to the logical inconsistencies that I still see in the
    way you argued (and Allen also adressed).

    >About "no help ....etc." If Mike's (approved by Allen) about
    >Phaedrus' intellectual knife and the many ways it can slice
    >experience are examples of "valid and right to the point"?
    >
    >Thanks anyway.
    >Bo
    >

    JoVo resumes:

    I don't see any additional points to your SOL sofar, but I will have a
    closer look to yor essay once again. All that I see right now is a
    dogmatic battle for SOL (or SOLAQI) although there have been numerous
    rejections of it. I'll be back for it soon.

    Greetings to Norway, JoVo

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