From: Allen Barrows (allen_barrows@yahoo.co.uk)
Date: Sat Jun 25 2005 - 20:52:03 BST
2.
Pirsig does replace his classic / romantic split in ZMM with the static
/dynamic split in Lila. Although Pirsig does define the romantic
aesthetic in ZMM as the immediate surface appearance of things I don't think he
meant superficiality, which he criticizes later on as the tinsel of the
appearance of quality, like chromed plastic.
Intellect, or reasoning, appears to have two constituents, much like
Pirsig's duality in either ZMM or Lila. Analytic differentiating reason is
what most of us mean when we use the words rationality / reasoning. The
modern west has come to accept this as the totality of reason it seems, or
mostly so, and it's no wonder that SOM is dominate, for that is the world of
analytic reason (ie, breaking reality into discrete parts).
Synthetic or inductive reason has to make 'leaps of faith' to reach
conclusions. IOW, with this type of reasoning we end up with more than
we start. The only thing that can fill in the gaps is intuition. The
premises that inductive reasoning starts from are not necessarily parsed SOM
concepts. Apparently our greatest breakthroughs originate with intuitive
understandings, and this is the creative aspect of reason.
Allen - I agree Steve. And this is where coherence comes in because coherence may be a patterned state open to Dynamic influence and the creative aspect of symbolic manipulation.
The symbols are a static repertiore (analogous to orchestral notation) and coherence is an arrangement of repertiore (manipulation)
Part to whole relationship. (Static notation - Dynamic performance)
Each coherent state is unique (limited to repertiore, context sesnitive) but the aim is Dynamic (open to being more than the sum parts of the repertiore)
One may stuff information into the repertiore for years before a critical structure is reached which becomes coherent and transforms the whole repertiore into a higher state of organisation. When that happens new things emerge that may never have been thought before.
So, with language pretty much limited to SOM speak, we talk about
reason and intuition as two separate things. But really both occur together
always (that's my 'belief' anyway ;)). We must be careful, once again, of
realizing the limitation of language in describing experience.
Allen - Well, may i suggest that our cultural environment may insist upon a SOM like way of categorising experience, but all the while something very different is being experienced in the lives of every day folks. Always was. Just because we are lead to believe one thing does not mean we actually experience something else.
Intuition is the part of intellect that grasps your harmony. It is no
accident that mathematics derived through intuition models very well
SOM parsed experience.
Allen - I am not quite getting this because of a spelling mistake. Sorry!
However, when you say 'intuition is part of' i merely say 'intuition is an arrangement of the repertiore which is open to Dynamic influence.' Intuition may be a mode of intellect which comes into being between appropriate arrangements of the parts.
If we accept intuition as part of rationality then this frees reason
from SOM. I am not sure how this fits in with Bo's SOL.
Allen - I do accept what you say and this may mean that reason never was SOM in the first place! Reason is not synonymous with SOM. That is not stated in ZMM and i have looked hard for it.
Anyway, non of this fits in with Bos SOL as far as i understand, and what is more, i have asked him about this for years and years without response.
Thanks for your response.
Live well,
Steve
PS Incidentally, my sign off, live well, reflects the end for both
Quality and aretê.
Allen - I thought so. Like it. And you also Steve.
Thank you,
Allen
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