Re: MD Our Immoral Supreme Court

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Mon Jul 04 2005 - 21:56:28 BST

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    > Platt: 7-3-05
    > Are you in favor of making ownership illegal? You said
    > before that "All property is theft."
    >
    > Mark 3-7-05:
    > I think ownership can be intellectualy justified as
    > your excellence. What you are good at is what you may
    > be said to own.
    > Perhaps the best freedom anyone may enjoy is to be
    > allowed to cultivate their own excellence.

    Hi Mark M,

    Does this mean I can own land, food, shelter, clothing, car, computer,
    furniture, TV, telephone, etc.,etc? Or are all these things I claim as
    belonging to me "theft?" Of course like everybody else I believe that I'm
    "good at" using all the things I have.

    > Platt:
    > Not yet. Please explain the intellectual basis for
    > rejecting the concept of "self."
    >
    > Mark 3-7-05:
    > Everything is changing all the time except DQ.
    > If this is taken to be the basis for describing who
    > you are, then it must be said that you are never the
    > same person from one moment to the next.
    > So, what is the 'thing' that you can point to and say,
    > 'That is me' if you are never the same person from one
    > moment to the next?
    > By the time you have pointed you have changed.
    > You are a moving target ever out of sight.
    > The MOQ answers this problem by saying you are unique
    > patterns of value responding to and migrating towards
    > DQ.

    Now we're getting somewhere. Now you say, like Pirsig, that I am unique
    patters of value, not just a happening. Would you agree that some of those
    "patterns" never change, like my fingerprints and DNA?

    Platt

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