Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Society

From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Thu Jul 14 2005 - 16:34:02 BST

  • Next message: Erin: "Re: MD Theism, Non-Theism, Anti-Theism, Nihilism"

    On 13 Jul 2005 at 7:09, Platt Holden wrote:

    > msh 7-12-05:
    > The idea that unregulated capitalism will not lead to monopolies, or
    > near-monopolies, defies common sense. Even a cursory look at the
    > the last decade's merging of banks, media producers, insurance
    > companies, airlines, defense contractors, computer software and
    > hardware companies, would belie the notion that monopoly is somehow
    > "impossible" unless it is caused by government intervention.

    platt 7-13-05:
    Mergers are not monopolies.

    msh 7-14-05:
    Clearly, mergers and acquisitions can lead to monopolies. This is
    why such business practices are regulated by agencies like the
    Federal Trade Commission and Federal Reserve Board although, since
    the Reagan 80's, these agencies have issued little more than rubber
    stamp approvals.

    * * * * * * * * * *
    msh 7-12-05:
    It's not my task (or right) to single-handedly bring about the Moral
    Society, even if I could. My position is that a more moral society
    will evolve naturally if we work to remove the physical and
    psychological impediments blocking the vast majority of people from
    realizing their full human potential.
     
    To this end, I've argued for specific actions, including:
    prohibiting wealth from unduly influencing domestic and foreign
    policy; prohibiting wealth (and power) from dominating the
    propagation of information; and prohibiting the privatization of life-
    essential products and services.
     
    So far, you've failed to demonstrate how such actions are
    antithetical to the moral underpinnings of the Metaphysics of
    Quality.

    platt 7-13-05:
    Prohibit, prohibit, prohibit. The MOQ moral underpinning antithetical
    to such actions -- in a nutshell:

    "Dynamic Quality is the pre-intellectual cutting edge of realty, the
    source of all things, completely simple and always new. It was the
    moral force that had motivated the brujo in Zuni. It contains no
    pattern of fixed rewards and punishments. Its only perceived good is
    freedom and its only perceived evil is static quality itself-any
    pattern of one-sided fixed values that tries to contain and kill the
    ongoing free force of life." (Lila, 9)

    msh 7-14-05:
    I think it's safe to say that no one other than you interprets this
    passage to mean that society has no moral right to prohibit certain
    behavior among its citizens.

    * * * * * * * *
    platt 7-12-05:
    Would you be in favor of a law that increased taxes on those who
    refused to give blood on a regular basis in order to replenish the
    blood supply that saves lives? If not, why not?
     
    msh 7-12-05:
    Yes, if those who refused cannot prove that giving blood put their
    health at risk, and if the process of collecting and distributing
    blood was conducted by legitimate non-profit agencies. People who
    profit from the existence of community services should be required to
    support those services, one way or another.

    platt 7-13-05:
    Thanks, you made my point.

    msh 7-14-05:
    Uh, what point?

    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)

    -- 
    InfoPro Consulting - The Professional Information Processors
    Custom Software Solutions for Windows, PDAs, and the Web Since 1983
    Web Site: http://www.infoproconsulting.com
    "Like many businessmen of genius he learned that free competition was
    wasteful, monopoly efficient. And so he simply set about achieving 
    that efficient monopoly."
    -- Mario Puzo (The Godfather) 
    MOQ.ORG  - http://www.moq.org
    Mail Archives:
    Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/
    Nov '02 Onward  - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html
    MD Queries -                                                                                
    To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at:
    http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
    


    This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.5 : Thu Jul 14 2005 - 19:06:26 BST