Re: MD Theism, Non-Theism, Anti-Theism, Nihilism

From: ian glendinning (psybertron@gmail.com)
Date: Mon Jul 18 2005 - 10:08:09 BST

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    Scott, MSH,

    If anyone was really looking for a non-theistic explantion of
    consciousness, they'd have no trouble finding one (or many), which
    makes me suspect the motives of those who don't find any, wimps or
    not. (By theistic I mean invoking a transcendent causal conscious
    "god".)

    As to whether Aristotelian logic is the best form of explanation, I
    doubt it, but that's a separate issue. Unless you're trying to
    disprove something, having "faith" in science is merely suspending
    disbelief in a regime that has successfully explained quite a lot
    already. Any other kind of faith is highly suspect to me.

    Smullyan's "Is God a Taoist ?" is the best of the most recent I've
    come across, and it get's remarkably close to Pirsigian Quality
    en-route.

    Ian

    On 7/18/05, MarshaV <marshalz@charter.net> wrote:
    > At 05:41 PM 7/17/2005 +0200, Bo wrote:
    > >Finally, Pirsig is correct: the MOQ is anti-theist, no need to waver
    > >on that point. Intellect is the highest value and the social level (of
    > >which traditional Semitic religions are relics of) is subordinate to
    > >it. But because intellect is a static level it is subordinate to MOQ's
    > >DQ/SQ system. And this have put things in a new light; the
    > >Semitic kind of religions are still a lower value level, but the MOQ
    > >have reinstated GOOD as the central issue.
    >
    > Greetings,
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    > Bo, I find your post very interesting. I would like to hear about GOOD as
    > a noun rather than an adjective. It would seem to me that as an adjective,
    > GOOD drops the subjectivity to become - preference or probability in a much
    > more objective way?
    >
    > I know I'm thinking above my pay scale, but it's what I think about.
    >
    > MarshaV
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