Re: MD MOQ and The Moral Society

From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Sun Jul 24 2005 - 16:32:19 BST

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    Hi David,

    Your letter to Ant seems to indicate that FoxLimbaughPlattian
    political ideas have been written off " with the whim of a hat," or
    dismissed as blinkered or prejudiced, no discussion required. I
    think a careful review of this thread, as well as many others over
    the last year, will show a thorough philosophical, political, and
    historical debunking of such notions. For starters, take a look
    at the "Biological Crime," thread of May-2004, as well as "MOQ and
    The Moral Evolution of Society" and "Morality of Deadly Force."
    Also, from November of last year, "Ill-gotten Gains," "Moral Values
    in Elections," and "Creationism in Schools." You might also find of
    the interest the "Understanding Power" and "Quality of Capitalism"
    threads, December 2004. There are many others.

    However, if you would like to begin a fresh defense of such ideas, it
    would be my pleasure to engage you. That is, if your defense will be
    comprised of argument and evidence rather than evasion, distortion,
    and off-point digression.

    Best,
    Mark Steven Heyman (msh)

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    On 24 Jul 2005 at 18:03, David Harding wrote:
    Ant Wrote these things to Platt:
    > To believe otherwise 
    > is to leave the MOQ and enter the realm of small minded 
    parochialism
    > and prejudice (actually, the latter sounds a bit like a Rush
    > Limbaugh show, doesn�t it?) 
    > 
    > If you think they can be, I would like you 
    > to suggest the biological test that can indicate terrorist
    > biological cells from non-terrorist ones.  And if you can suggest
    > such a test, I think that would just indicate that you are some 
    kind
    > of nut.
    >  
    > I would also add here that - if anything - the MOQ tells us through
    > the example of the brujo that negative behaviour on the surface
    > needs to be analysed to see exactly how justified the reasons for 
    it
    > are rather than just simply written off as criminal.  
    Yes! Let's stop 'just simply' writing others ideas off with the whim
    of a hat!
    Ant Wrote next paragraph:
    > (and yes, to repeat
    > what I realised when the latter gave a lecture at Liverpool last
    > year � Chomsky is a great man of integrity and intelligence and
    > only the blinkered and the prejudiced could think otherwise).
    And finally:
    > As you know, I always side with high quality intellectual 
    statements
    > so yes, there is no disagreement with your comment here.
    Ant,
    I can understand that now you have a PhD in your name under the MOQ
    you are filled with a certain amount of 'academic confidence' but I
    find the exclusivity with which you hold your views quite a shock and
    a little offputting. I thought I would just bring them to your
    attention here in case you were still in an understandable state of
    euphoria over recieving such a distinction from society and felt you
    ruled the world or something.
    -David.
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