From: Mark Steven Heyman (markheyman@infoproconsulting.com)
Date: Mon Jul 25 2005 - 16:57:26 BST
Hello Khaled, and all,
It's nice to hear from you again. Your post is a high-quality
contribution to the list, and I urge everyone here to read it very
carefully.
In the 40's we were told to fear our Japanese neighbors. In the
50's, there was a communist under every bed. In the 60's we were
told that Communism would take over the world if we didn't stop it in
Vietnam. In the 70's and 80's, Marxists were massing on our
borders, ready to invade Texas; drug-dealing Panamanian dictators
were poisoning our kids; the Russians were building air strips in
Grenada.
All of this programmed fear resulted in the ruin of hundreds of
thousands of lives, and the death of millions.
Starting in 1990, a new threat was required, which was duly provided
and became the over-blown balloon of "Muslim terrorism" that has now
driven police to kill someone with, what, slightly tanned skin and
baggy clothes? As Khaled suggests, "What's next?"
Folks, people in power are fanning the flames of fear by playing on
cultural prejudices. Why? So that you will allow them to pursue
their goals of military and therefore financial domination of the
world.
This is an ancient truth. It's sad, brutally sad, that we must learn
it, over and over again.
Peace to you, Khaled, my friend, and to my other friends on the list.
Mark Steven Heyman (msh)
-- InfoPro Consulting - The Professional Information Processors Custom Software Solutions for Windows, PDAs, and the Web Since 1983 Web Site: http://www.infoproconsulting.com "They are foreign to us and therefore more threatening, their motives and methods obscure. So we attack them (and those who resemble them) and try not to notice how like them, brutal and ruthless, we are becoming in the process." http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0609-30.htm On 24 Jul 2005 at 14:31, khaled Alkotob wrote: Hello All, Hello Mark You are right on all count. My name is Khaled Alkotob, A Muslim of Lebanese descent who lives in California ( where the Japanese detention camps were) and I have been following the discussions for a while, partially looking for things to take my mind off the day to day ugly headlines in the paper. I knew sooner or later that the headlines would make it to this board. In regard to the this particular discussion I encourage the readers of this forum to read the following: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 07/11/05 "The Guardian" -- The label of Catholic terror was never used about the IRA Fundamentalism is often a form of nationalism in religious disguise by Karen Armstrong +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ a wonderful little article that helps shed some light as to what is happening. it's not perfect by all means, but it helps. Yes columnist like Thomas Freedman and the like are starting to float the idea of detention centers, which I find intriguing and make me pose the following questions: When the Japanese were rounded up they were contained in their community, and fairly easy to identify by name, surname, race and religion. The question I pose is HOW are you going to round up the usual suspects? You already have a Brazilian national dead. Shot at close range AFTER being subdued. So you start with the Sunni, then the Shiite, Wahhabi, Salafi, Hanafi. Do the Sufi, Bahaii, Alawite, Druze qualify or not? Then you go to nationalities, so you round up those of Arab descent ( be careful some might be Christian) then Pakistani, Indian, Indonesian? How about a Chinese who is Muslim, or a Malaysian. How about Converts to Christianity. What if they converted to take cover? How about children of mixed marriages? Would a Muslim Yugoslav qualify? Lets say you were able to hold a few million people in detention centers, then what. How long do you hold them for? What kind of resentment will they be harboring when you let hem go? What will their friends and relatives who live in the old countries be willing to do? During the IRA bombing campaigns, it would have been unheard of to go lock up a few Mormons, because some catholics from Ireland made a mess somewhere. Peace Khaled MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archives: Aug '98 - Oct '02 - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ Nov '02 Onward - http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/summary.html MD Queries - horse@darkstar.uk.net To unsubscribe from moq_discuss follow the instructions at: http://www.moq.org/md/subscribe.html
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