Re: MD Re: Racist Remarks

From: Sam Norton (elizaphanian@kohath.wanadoo.co.uk)
Date: Tue Jul 26 2005 - 05:31:12 BST

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    Hi Mark,

    Thanks for indulging me on this. The reason I asked you to unpick it was
    because the earlier ones on the list had passed me by, and I was wondering
    why you included the whole list. Specifically, the comment about camels
    hadn't registered properly. So I agree that you have a point.

    However, would you think this equally objectionable (said to me back in
    March by DMB): " I mean, its not
    that I hate christians or theists, I just think they're wrong. Only crooked
    toothed, tea drinking, fish and chips eater like you could suggest that
    bigotry has anything to do with it. (I'm actually having trouble coming up
    with English sterotypes for this joke, but you get the idea. ) "
    http://www.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/14084.html

    The thing is, I do have crooked teeth, I drink an awful lot of tea, and
    after two weeks in Asia I was dying for some fish and chips. And I also
    thought it was quite funny (I find DMB funny a lot of the time). Is this
    also racist? Where do we draw the boundaries? Is it just a question of
    taking offence - in other words, if I had taken offence at DMB, would that
    in itself have made the remarks racist?

    I think the underlying concern I have is that bringing in the assertion of
    racism _can_ generate more heat than light. But quite possibly I still have
    racist elements in my own thinking. For example, I think a strong argument
    can be made for racial profiling when assessing potential bomb threats.
    Perhaps we could focus on that?

    Thanks
    Sam

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