From: Wim Nusselder (wim.nusselder@antenna.nl)
Date: Sat Jul 30 2005 - 06:46:34 BST
Dear Sam,
You asked 25 Jul 10:19 +0100:
"what is the equivalent way [referring to other levels] of understanding the
intellectual level? ... how do those intellectual patterns respond to DQ?
... How is the higher quality of one intellectual pattern over another
static latched?"
To understand the 'natural selection' of intellectual patterns, it is
essential to understand what the smallest unit of 'patternedness' at the
intellectual level is. Not an idea, but a symbol.
It is latched because and as long as it is used to 'refer'. Intellectual
quality is the 'truth' or 'meaning' experienced in references of symbols to
... whatever.
'Succes' in this 'natural selection' is NOT measured by the strength with
which individuals (in their heads) stick to a particular symbol. For
individuals die and the symbols in their head will be gone.
Symbols are latched in groups. (And the social patterns of value have as
smallest unit habits that are passed on by copying behaviour. Social
patterns constitute groups, but also
identities-as-roles-in-a-social-structure. Groups are not the defining
element of the social level. But that is another story.) In that sense
intellectual patterns require a social level to come into existence and to
survive.
'Succes' in the 'natural selection of symbols' is measured by the size of
the group that expresses 'truth' or 'meaning' by refering with them to ...
whatever and by the duration of their use.
An idea (a set of symbols) dies when people stop expressing it. It will
exist for some time as a 'seed', as hieroglyphs on stone or words on paper,
but when its social context (eg. language-as-habits-of-communication)
changes, it will lose its ability to 'refer', to express 'truth' or
'meaning'.
'Value' and 'quality', at any level, are NOT 'exercition of preference' by
some unit of decision. That understanding of 'value' and 'quality' refers to
subject object metaphysics: subjects exercising preference for objects over
other objects.
'Intellectual' or rather 'symbolic' 'value/quality' are symply implied in
the existence (stability and versatility) of patternedness in the way we
'refer' and experience 'truth' and 'meaning'.
With friendly greetings,
Wim
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