From: MarshaV (marshalz@charter.net)
Date: Sat Jul 30 2005 - 21:11:00 BST
Dear Wim,
I do think Zen has practices to dissolve low value static quality in one's
own thinking. These same practices can strengthen high value static
quality, and that may allow movement towards Dynamic Quality. The
practices are a process that are not likely to become static quality. Any
religiosity does not need to be adopted. In Chapter 24 which is presently
under discussion, Phaedrus defines good, "What's good is freedom from
domination by any static pattern, but that freedom doesn't have to be
obtained by the destruction of the patterns themselves." Meditation and
mindfulness are very dynamic processes. I also think meditation and
mindfulness are very much processes of the Intellectual Level.
I am surprised you never felt a curiosity to investigate Zen Philosophy?
Thank you for your thoughtful response.
MarshaV
At 03:47 PM 7/30/2005 +0200, you wrote:
>Dear Marsha,
>
>You wrote 30 Jul 7:41 -0400:
>"I read of the conflict between the levels and identifying with a dominant
>level. But where is the Dynamic Quality that Zen offers? Where is the
>turning away from, the letting go of, attachment.
>Where are the instructions, methods and suggestions to reach the place for
>experiencing that everything is connected to everything and a broader
>perspective? And how can this be cultivated in ourselves and offered to all
>in the Social and Intellectual levels?"
>I don't know about Zen, but I agree that you won't find the Dynamic Quality
>that measures and thereby connects all static quality if you only look for
>conflicts between levels of static quality and for which patterns are
>highest and dominant within and between levels.
>Yet "instructions, methods and suggestions to reach the place for
>experiencing that everything is connected to everything and a broader
>perspective" are just more social and intellectual static quality.
>You can only cultivate Dynamic Quality by looking for ... static quality, by
>seeing its steady change, its migration towards ... Dynamic Quality, despite
>conflicts, despite even harmony within and between levels.
>There's no place to experience it but here and now and everywhere. There's
>no method for it but by experiencing Quality in its contradictory (static
>and Dynamic) identity. It doesn't need instruction, suggestions and being
>offered. It is there for everyone already.
>One turns away from and lets go of attachment to any particular static
>pattern of value as soon as one sees the whole pattern of migration of them
>all. When you experience the static in the Dynamic and the Dynamic in the
>static, you identify with the whole, the One, with Quality as such.
>
>With friendly greetings,
>
>Wim
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