Re: MD Where is the Zen&

From: David Harding (davidharding@optusnet.com.au)
Date: Sun Jul 31 2005 - 12:37:35 BST

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    Hi all.

    Marsha,

    I agree.

    Having just returned from a retreat myself I think this is one thing
    which is in some need of attention. I have actually been thinking of
    writing a paper on this very topic. Do you have anything more you
    would like to say on the matter? Is there anyone else who would like to
    say something on this?

    Perhaps to get us started I'll write my MOQ related answer to each of
    your questions which needed them, below:

    Marsha: But where is the Dynamic Quality that Zen offers? Where is the
    turning away from, the letting go of, attachment?

    Not on this board much. Mystics too busy not saying anything.

    Marsha: Where are the instructions, methods and suggestions to reach the
    place for experiencing that everything is connected to everything and a
    broader perspective?

    Presently, in the Zendo or equivalent.

    Marsha: And how can this be cultivated in ourselves and offered to all
    in the Social and Intellectual levels?

    It can be taken home from the Zendo.

    Marsha: Is the Metaphysics of Quality to become just another headache,
    all heat and no quality?

    With it's name, I think not. When? My lifetime? Yours? Two Generations
    from now? My suggestion is to cultivate yourself and it will be sooner
    rather than later.

    Cheers for the timely spiel Marsha,

    -David

    MarshaV wrote:

    > Where is the Zen?
    >
    > I read the perspective of the cold war warrior, the theologian, the
    > activist, the dialectician, the academic, the scientist, the
    > philosopher, etc. etc. I read of the conflict between the levels and
    > identifying with a dominant level. But where is the Dynamic Quality
    > that Zen offers? Where is the turning away from, the letting go of,
    > attachment.
    >
    > Where are the instructions, methods and suggestions to reach the place
    > for experiencing that everything is connected to everything and a
    > broader perspective? And how can this be cultivated in ourselves and
    > offered to all in the Social and Intellectual levels?
    >
    > Is the Metaphysics of Quality to become just another headache, all
    > heat and no quality?
    >
    > Forgive my impertinence.
    >
    > MarshaV
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