Re: MD MOQ Society and Health Care

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Fri Aug 05 2005 - 14:38:23 BST

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    Hi Arlo,

    > Christian morality (and dare I say all religious morality) has always
    > professed the greatest acts in caring for your neighbors, and renouncing
    > material wealth. I could just as easily be arguing for community health
    > care from this perspective, as from a Marxist one. But fear of gulags
    > serves propaganda better, doesn't it? In the end, I'm arguing for this from
    > (what I believe to be) a MOQ perspective.

    It's heartwarming to know you are an advocate of Christian morality and
    that you think the MOQ presents Christian morality in disguise. I wonder
    how many MD'ers agree with you?

    > I restate, Pirig advocated protecting the lives of criminals because of
    > their mind/intellect potential to contribute to evolutionary growth. He
    > says clearly that a mind is a collection of ideas, and these are at a
    > higher moral level than social patterns. He also says it is better for an
    > idea to destroy society than for society to destroy an idea. Clearly, there
    > is more value placed in protecting mind/intellect than in social-level
    > wealth or structures. Thus, to let the sick, who cannot afford life-saving
    > servies, say dialysis, "die" because they lack capital means is against the
    > MOQ.
    >
    > Without using gulag-fear propaganda, how do you respond to this?

    > [Arlo]
    > What is "worthy of public support through taxation" if not placing these at
    > a higher moral level than your and my "right" to accumulate wealth? If you
    > place the right to accumulate wealth higher than, say, public education,
    > why do you support it? Why not argue that no education should be publically
    > funded, thus protecting the wealth of the individual?

    Have previously responded to all of this. Look up our old exchanges and
    reread them.

    > [Platt]
    > > What's scary is your thinking of personal savings as "static wealth
    > > piles," as if no one is entitled to keep part of what he earns, or as if
    > > such "wealth piles" are not invested in all sorts of economic activity to
    > produce goods, services, not to mention jobs..
    >
    > [Arlo]
    > When did I say "no one is entitled to keep part of what s/he earns"?

    Just about every time you turn around and propose another government
    program. :-)

    Platt

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