RE: MD Conflict

From: Platt Holden (pholden@sc.rr.com)
Date: Sun Aug 07 2005 - 14:39:25 BST

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    Hi Horse,

    PH previously:
    > > What I had in mind was the Brit's interrogation methods
    > > that have lead to further arrests. What those methods were I have no
    > > idea, nor do I care.

    Horse:
    > Well you really should do as the ends don't justify the means. Moral
    > outcomes are rarely, if ever, produced by immoral acts. Immoral acts are
    > immoral acts aren't they?
    >
    > As to the cops interrogation methods, I could be wrong but I doubt they
    > included torture or physical violence as this would not be good for their
    > image if it got out and considering the damage it's done in the past and
    > the miscarriages of justice involved I think they'd be very careful. There
    > are better methods. It's of great importance to keep the Moslem community
    > in this country involved with working to stop terrorism. Alienating them
    > will lead to worse things and continue the cycle of violence. Just as it
    > has in other parts of the world.
     
    If a biological or chemical terrorist attack kills tens of thousands in
    Britain, I don't think you would care about our reputation and how we are
    viewed in the Muslim world. Our interrogators should be permitted to
    employ every method of obtaining information that gets results. I agree
    with Pirsig:

    "Intellectuals must find biological behavior, no matter what its ethnic
    connection, and limit or destroy destructive biological patterns with
    complete moral ruthlessness, the way a doctor destroys germs, before those
    biological patterns destroy civilization itself."

    Your Prime Minister seems to understand this. As for the Muslim community
    working to stop terrorism, they have shown little inclination to do so. If
    they were serious about ending it, terrorism would cease to be a threat.

    Best,
    Platt

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